歌曲 | Nevermind, It's an Interview, Pt. 3 |
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[00:01.34] | Welcome back to Nevermind it's an interview. - ST THOMAS |
[00:04.35] | Inspirations comes in many forms, and for Nirvana, - ST THOMAS |
[00:08.00] | it came in the form of an obscure Scottish band called the Vaselines. - ST THOMAS |
[00:13.05] | Kurt and I were totally into the Vaselines, - KRIST |
[00:15.44] | I mean they were my favorite band, - KRIST |
[00:16.75] | they still are one of my favorite bands. - KRIST |
[00:18.50] | Definitely our number one favorite band. - KURT |
[00:21.34] | We finally got to play with them, they reformed to play with us, - KRIST |
[00:24.90] | when we played Edinburgh, Scotland, in ah, early winter of 1990. - KRIST |
[00:29.30] | So we met Eugene, and kinda kept a rap going with them- KRIST |
[00:32.65] | then we heard Captain America the band,- KRIST |
[00:34.54] | we heard the tape, we were totally blown away.- KRIST |
[00:36.14] | Yeah, that's his new band, Captain America, they're really good. - KURT |
[00:39.39] | Eugene's a great songwriter, so, yeah! - KRIST |
[00:41.24] | Captain America's gotta go on tour with us! - KRIST |
[00:45.00] | 《Molly's Lips》 |
[01:03.00] | Since our record has done so well, - KRIST |
[01:05.65] | we can open up doors for other bands, - KRIST |
[01:08.10] | from where we come from, - KRIST |
[01:09.99] | like Sonic Youth or Mudhoney, or the Melvins, - KRIST |
[01:12.60] | or L7, or Dinosaur Jr. I can just go on and on and on and on. - KRIST |
[01:16.99] | I guess the best part would be, - KURT |
[01:19.94] | being in the position to take other bands, - KURT |
[01:22.85] | whom you like a lot, on tour with you. - KURT |
[01:25.94] | It's definitely a nice thing to be able to do. - KURT |
[01:29.49] | We took Shonen Knife, a three piece all girl Japanese band - KURT |
[01:34.84] | on tour with us in England, - KURT |
[01:36.80] | and they've been a favorite of ours for years, - KURT |
[01:39.15] | and no one really knows who they are in England, or anywhere in Europe. - KURT |
[01:42.29] | And we've taken the Melvins on tour with us, - KURT |
[01:44.85] | and in the future, we hope to take Hole, and Jesus Lizard, - KURT |
[01:49.34] | and a bunch of other bands who we like. - KURT |
[01:51.00] | 《Stain》 |
[02:02.00] | But nothing really exciting happens on tour. - KURT |
[02:05.63] | People think that the 'rock star life' is so exciting and it's, - KURT |
[02:10.33] | y'know you play a show, - KURT |
[02:12.74] | you usually get into the town by the time it's dark, - KURT |
[02:15.98] | and you sound check, and you don't get to see the city, - KURT |
[02:18.83] | you play the show and then you leave the next morning. - KURT |
[02:21.24] | Y'know, you go to the hotel room, and you leave, - KURT |
[02:23.99] | and do the same thing over and over again. - KURT |
[02:25.98] | It's kinda boring in a way, I mean still I can't think of anything else I'd rather do, - KURT |
[02:31.54] | but it's not as exciting as everyone thinks. - KURT |
[02:34.74] | But it's getting harder for me to jump out of the audience now, - KURT |
[02:37.89] | because the crowds are bigger and some of the people don't realize that. - KURT |
[02:43.38] | I don't know what they realize actually, - KURT |
[02:45.34] | because they're putting their hands in my pockets and - KURT |
[02:47.94] | trying to steal my money and my wallet, - KURT |
[02:50.24] | and they're they're hitting me really hard and scratching me, so it's ... - KURT |
[02:56.29] | I dunno, after a while I'm probably not going to be able to do that anymore. - KURT |
[02:59.04] | And that's too bad, cause' it's a fun little bonding thing to do with the audience. - KURT |
[03:03.83] | 《School》, live version |
[05:07.00] | That's School from the album Bleach recorded live. - ST THOMAS |
[05:11.26] | Nirvana says their next album will be different, perhaps even more like Bleach.- ST THOMAS |
[05:16.17] | Well our next record's gonna be different, it's gonna be way different. - KRIST |
[05:19.57] | Well I wouldn't want to put out two of the same record - DAVE |
[05:21.36] | We'd like to record every song differently. - KURT |
[05:24.51] | These are just ideas that we have. - KRIST |
[05:26.62] | Y'know, I know, I know it's gonna be a, a record of extremities. - KRIST |
[05:30.12] | I think we had our shot at doing the ah, big studio, high-tech Hollywood thing, - DAVE |
[05:34.61] | whatever y'know I mean, that studio to us, was like, pretty like, techno. - DAVE |
[05:39.77] | I dunno, maybe we'll do the next record on 8-track. - DAVE |
[05:42.46] | That will be recorded on 8-track. - KURT |
[05:44.32] | You can get more low end frequencies out of an 8-track. - DAVE |
[05:46.47] | Go back to the Bleach sound. - KURT |
[05:48.31] | Back to that sorta, more along the lines of Bleach. - DAVE |
[05:50.57] | Cause' I really liked the production of Bleach, and I, - KURT |
[05:53.52] | I dunno, I felt kinda weird straying so far away from it ... - KURT |
[05:57.02] | We've got this far, with this record. - DAVE |
[05:58.62] | There's definitely going to be some more abrasive songs on our next record. - KURT |
[06:01.57] | Y'know, we're gonna do something, just totally test the limits. - DAVE |
[06:05.22] | Really raw and abrasive, to very uh, pretty and candyish. - KRIST |
[06:09.67] | All the radio listeners, or the MTV watchers, or whoever, just like, really test them, - DAVE |
[06:14.66] | and shove something totally aggro, in their face, and, - DAVE |
[06:17.98] | and see if they can handle that. - DAVE |
[06:19.00] | 《Big Cheese》 |
[06:44.00] | Almost anything that's musical, is pop music, as far as I'm concerned. - KURT |
[06:49.14] | As long as it's good, and it's catchy, it's pop. And y'know, a lot of punk rock is pop. - KURT |
[06:54.50] | I think the only time that punk rock strayed away from pop, - KURT |
[06:58.29] | was when hardcore came around, y'know, and there was a lot, - KURT |
[07:02.50] | y'know, real dirgy stuff also, - KURT |
[07:05.79] | like the crossover metal thing, and I really can't consider a lot of that music. - KURT |
[07:10.69] | Y'know, maybe one percent, of the people who are listening to Nevermind, - DAVE |
[07:14.94] | that ever bought Nevermind, maybe not one percent, - DAVE |
[07:17.15] | but I'm just saying that this, um, a small minority of people - DAVE |
[07:19.79] | who are listening to our record now, know about punk rock. - DAVE |
[07:23.33] | A lot of people don't know about punk rock. - DAVE |
[07:25.02] | They think about punk rock ... - DAVE |
[07:26.23] | and they think of like that Quincy episode where the guy threw the brick off the building. - DAVE |
[07:30.02] | I guess, I dunno, I just don't agree with old punk rock ethos, - KURT |
[07:34.32] | of like, you have to starve to be a real artist. It's bullshit. - KURT |
[07:39.00] | 《Been A Son》 |
[07:53.00] | We don't like to think of ourselves as a political band, - KURT |
[07:56.60] | because y'know, you tend to become too anal, and it becomes ridiculous, - KURT |
[08:01.60] | If you shove it down people's throats y'know, - KURT |
[08:03.80] | we just ask people to be aware a little bit, - KURT |
[08:05.80] | and I think the songs kinda reflect that. - KURT |
[08:07.96] | It's just another issue, another topic, like we could talk about racism, - KRIST |
[08:10.96] | we could talk about feminism, nationalism, I don't really subscribe to that way of thought, at all. - KRIST |
[08:17.60] | There's just so much corruption going on with the government, - KURT |
[08:20.86] | and the Reagan years have definitely set us back, - KURT |
[08:24.55] | to where the average teenager feels kinda lost, and there isn't much hope. - KURT |
[08:29.80] | They're still at least, aware of the mistakes that our parent's generation has made. - KURT |
[08:36.30] | And I just think that it'll take a little bit of time for kids to start doing the duties - KURT |
[08:41.31] | that they're supposed to do, which is challenge things, like corruption. - KURT |
[08:45.55] | "The way American's money is budgeted by our government, - DAVE |
[08:48.55] | it leaves nothing to the education system. - DAVE |
[08:51.30] | Teachers are dealing with the future, y'know, - DAVE |
[08:54.10] | teachers are dealing with kids growing up, who are gonna take care of me or you, someday. - DAVE |
[09:01.35] | Just the education system in general, in a lot of places, is really screwed. - DAVE |
[09:06.56] | Y'know, it's great to get information like that, so you can um, form your own ideas. - KRIST |
[09:10.35] | It'd be neat, if like y'know, the 60's had a like, Abby Hoffman, - KRIST |
[09:15.45] | or ah, John Sinclair y'know, Timothy Leary to an extent. - KRIST |
[09:19.60] | And they were spokes people, and they were shaking things up, - KRIST |
[09:22.70] | and nowadays, there's not really anybody. - KRIST |
[09:24.00] | 《Territorial Pissings》 |
[11:44.00] | Territorial Pissings from the multi platinum release Nevermind. - ST THOMAS |
[11:48.91] | Since it's release, the album has topped the billboard charts, - ST THOMAS |
[11:52.27] | and the first single Smells Like Teen Spirit has become a top-ten hit. - ST THOMAS |
[11:56.56] | The success of Nevermind has taken a lot of people by surprise including the band. - ST THOMAS |
[12:01.50] | I'll never get over the shock and that's kinda good. - KURT |
[12:04.17] | It was, um, sort of a really, whatever, organic thing, there wasn't any massive hype. - DAVE |
[12:10.92] | I mean there is definitely no big million dollar investment, in, - KURT |
[12:14.67] | in promotion behind this record at all, it's totally organic, and it just happened. - KURT |
[12:19.26] | Y'know, whatever's happened, is, was surely out of our control, - KRIST |
[12:22.41] | and I'm glad it's happened y'know it's nice to sell that many records, - KRIST |
[12:25.56] | it's nice to turn on people to something different. - KRIST |
[12:28.11] | People tellin' me "Oh yeah you guy's record", "I think you guys are gonna go platinum", - KRIST |
[12:32.10] | and we're like "Oh man, c'mon, y'know, if we get a gold record outta this, that'll be amazing". - KRIST |
[12:36.97] | It's not my fault. I never wanted the fame involved. - KURT |
[12:40.82] | That's, That's a totally different story. - KURT |
[12:43.31] | I think Paul Stanley once said something like, - KURT |
[12:46.45] | "Only thing that money gives you is relief of not having to worry about money." - KURT |
[12:50.91] | Only thing I'd really like to do with it, is to invest in some bands that I like, - KURT |
[12:55.02] | I, I don't wanna start my own record label cause God, - KURT |
[12:58.76] | I know I couldn't do that. - KURT |
[13:01.46] | But I'd like to give some money to some labels who're putting out great music, help in that way. - KURT |
[13:08.27] | And um, probably gonna buy a house. - KURT |
[13:09.75] | Hopefully we can have a recording studio too a little 8-track recording studio, - KURT |
[13:14.01] | so we can make good demos. - KURT |
[13:16.70] | And those are pretty much the plans and just get some new shoes. - KURT |
[13:19.00] | 《Smell like teen spirit》 |
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[00:01.34] | Welcome back to Nevermind it' s an interview. ST THOMAS |
[00:04.35] | Inspirations comes in many forms, and for Nirvana, ST THOMAS |
[00:08.00] | it came in the form of an obscure Scottish band called the Vaselines. ST THOMAS |
[00:13.05] | Kurt and I were totally into the Vaselines, KRIST |
[00:15.44] | I mean they were my favorite band, KRIST |
[00:16.75] | they still are one of my favorite bands. KRIST |
[00:18.50] | Definitely our number one favorite band. KURT |
[00:21.34] | We finally got to play with them, they reformed to play with us, KRIST |
[00:24.90] | when we played Edinburgh, Scotland, in ah, early winter of 1990. KRIST |
[00:29.30] | So we met Eugene, and kinda kept a rap going with them KRIST |
[00:32.65] | then we heard Captain America the band, KRIST |
[00:34.54] | we heard the tape, we were totally blown away. KRIST |
[00:36.14] | Yeah, that' s his new band, Captain America, they' re really good. KURT |
[00:39.39] | Eugene' s a great songwriter, so, yeah! KRIST |
[00:41.24] | Captain America' s gotta go on tour with us! KRIST |
[00:45.00] | Molly' s Lips |
[01:03.00] | Since our record has done so well, KRIST |
[01:05.65] | we can open up doors for other bands, KRIST |
[01:08.10] | from where we come from, KRIST |
[01:09.99] | like Sonic Youth or Mudhoney, or the Melvins, KRIST |
[01:12.60] | or L7, or Dinosaur Jr. I can just go on and on and on and on. KRIST |
[01:16.99] | I guess the best part would be, KURT |
[01:19.94] | being in the position to take other bands, KURT |
[01:22.85] | whom you like a lot, on tour with you. KURT |
[01:25.94] | It' s definitely a nice thing to be able to do. KURT |
[01:29.49] | We took Shonen Knife, a three piece all girl Japanese band KURT |
[01:34.84] | on tour with us in England, KURT |
[01:36.80] | and they' ve been a favorite of ours for years, KURT |
[01:39.15] | and no one really knows who they are in England, or anywhere in Europe. KURT |
[01:42.29] | And we' ve taken the Melvins on tour with us, KURT |
[01:44.85] | and in the future, we hope to take Hole, and Jesus Lizard, KURT |
[01:49.34] | and a bunch of other bands who we like. KURT |
[01:51.00] | Stain |
[02:02.00] | But nothing really exciting happens on tour. KURT |
[02:05.63] | People think that the ' rock star life' is so exciting and it' s, KURT |
[02:10.33] | y' know you play a show, KURT |
[02:12.74] | you usually get into the town by the time it' s dark, KURT |
[02:15.98] | and you sound check, and you don' t get to see the city, KURT |
[02:18.83] | you play the show and then you leave the next morning. KURT |
[02:21.24] | Y' know, you go to the hotel room, and you leave, KURT |
[02:23.99] | and do the same thing over and over again. KURT |
[02:25.98] | It' s kinda boring in a way, I mean still I can' t think of anything else I' d rather do, KURT |
[02:31.54] | but it' s not as exciting as everyone thinks. KURT |
[02:34.74] | But it' s getting harder for me to jump out of the audience now, KURT |
[02:37.89] | because the crowds are bigger and some of the people don' t realize that. KURT |
[02:43.38] | I don' t know what they realize actually, KURT |
[02:45.34] | because they' re putting their hands in my pockets and KURT |
[02:47.94] | trying to steal my money and my wallet, KURT |
[02:50.24] | and they' re they' re hitting me really hard and scratching me, so it' s ... KURT |
[02:56.29] | I dunno, after a while I' m probably not going to be able to do that anymore. KURT |
[02:59.04] | And that' s too bad, cause' it' s a fun little bonding thing to do with the audience. KURT |
[03:03.83] | School, live version |
[05:07.00] | That' s School from the album Bleach recorded live. ST THOMAS |
[05:11.26] | Nirvana says their next album will be different, perhaps even more like Bleach. ST THOMAS |
[05:16.17] | Well our next record' s gonna be different, it' s gonna be way different. KRIST |
[05:19.57] | Well I wouldn' t want to put out two of the same record DAVE |
[05:21.36] | We' d like to record every song differently. KURT |
[05:24.51] | These are just ideas that we have. KRIST |
[05:26.62] | Y' know, I know, I know it' s gonna be a, a record of extremities. KRIST |
[05:30.12] | I think we had our shot at doing the ah, big studio, hightech Hollywood thing, DAVE |
[05:34.61] | whatever y' know I mean, that studio to us, was like, pretty like, techno. DAVE |
[05:39.77] | I dunno, maybe we' ll do the next record on 8track. DAVE |
[05:42.46] | That will be recorded on 8track. KURT |
[05:44.32] | You can get more low end frequencies out of an 8track. DAVE |
[05:46.47] | Go back to the Bleach sound. KURT |
[05:48.31] | Back to that sorta, more along the lines of Bleach. DAVE |
[05:50.57] | Cause' I really liked the production of Bleach, and I, KURT |
[05:53.52] | I dunno, I felt kinda weird straying so far away from it ... KURT |
[05:57.02] | We' ve got this far, with this record. DAVE |
[05:58.62] | There' s definitely going to be some more abrasive songs on our next record. KURT |
[06:01.57] | Y' know, we' re gonna do something, just totally test the limits. DAVE |
[06:05.22] | Really raw and abrasive, to very uh, pretty and candyish. KRIST |
[06:09.67] | All the radio listeners, or the MTV watchers, or whoever, just like, really test them, DAVE |
[06:14.66] | and shove something totally aggro, in their face, and, DAVE |
[06:17.98] | and see if they can handle that. DAVE |
[06:19.00] | Big Cheese |
[06:44.00] | Almost anything that' s musical, is pop music, as far as I' m concerned. KURT |
[06:49.14] | As long as it' s good, and it' s catchy, it' s pop. And y' know, a lot of punk rock is pop. KURT |
[06:54.50] | I think the only time that punk rock strayed away from pop, KURT |
[06:58.29] | was when hardcore came around, y' know, and there was a lot, KURT |
[07:02.50] | y' know, real dirgy stuff also, KURT |
[07:05.79] | like the crossover metal thing, and I really can' t consider a lot of that music. KURT |
[07:10.69] | Y' know, maybe one percent, of the people who are listening to Nevermind, DAVE |
[07:14.94] | that ever bought Nevermind, maybe not one percent, DAVE |
[07:17.15] | but I' m just saying that this, um, a small minority of people DAVE |
[07:19.79] | who are listening to our record now, know about punk rock. DAVE |
[07:23.33] | A lot of people don' t know about punk rock. DAVE |
[07:25.02] | They think about punk rock ... DAVE |
[07:26.23] | and they think of like that Quincy episode where the guy threw the brick off the building. DAVE |
[07:30.02] | I guess, I dunno, I just don' t agree with old punk rock ethos, KURT |
[07:34.32] | of like, you have to starve to be a real artist. It' s bullshit. KURT |
[07:39.00] | Been A Son |
[07:53.00] | We don' t like to think of ourselves as a political band, KURT |
[07:56.60] | because y' know, you tend to become too anal, and it becomes ridiculous, KURT |
[08:01.60] | If you shove it down people' s throats y' know, KURT |
[08:03.80] | we just ask people to be aware a little bit, KURT |
[08:05.80] | and I think the songs kinda reflect that. KURT |
[08:07.96] | It' s just another issue, another topic, like we could talk about racism, KRIST |
[08:10.96] | we could talk about feminism, nationalism, I don' t really subscribe to that way of thought, at all. KRIST |
[08:17.60] | There' s just so much corruption going on with the government, KURT |
[08:20.86] | and the Reagan years have definitely set us back, KURT |
[08:24.55] | to where the average teenager feels kinda lost, and there isn' t much hope. KURT |
[08:29.80] | They' re still at least, aware of the mistakes that our parent' s generation has made. KURT |
[08:36.30] | And I just think that it' ll take a little bit of time for kids to start doing the duties KURT |
[08:41.31] | that they' re supposed to do, which is challenge things, like corruption. KURT |
[08:45.55] | " The way American' s money is budgeted by our government, DAVE |
[08:48.55] | it leaves nothing to the education system. DAVE |
[08:51.30] | Teachers are dealing with the future, y' know, DAVE |
[08:54.10] | teachers are dealing with kids growing up, who are gonna take care of me or you, someday. DAVE |
[09:01.35] | Just the education system in general, in a lot of places, is really screwed. DAVE |
[09:06.56] | Y' know, it' s great to get information like that, so you can um, form your own ideas. KRIST |
[09:10.35] | It' d be neat, if like y' know, the 60' s had a like, Abby Hoffman, KRIST |
[09:15.45] | or ah, John Sinclair y' know, Timothy Leary to an extent. KRIST |
[09:19.60] | And they were spokes people, and they were shaking things up, KRIST |
[09:22.70] | and nowadays, there' s not really anybody. KRIST |
[09:24.00] | Territorial Pissings |
[11:44.00] | Territorial Pissings from the multi platinum release Nevermind. ST THOMAS |
[11:48.91] | Since it' s release, the album has topped the billboard charts, ST THOMAS |
[11:52.27] | and the first single Smells Like Teen Spirit has become a topten hit. ST THOMAS |
[11:56.56] | The success of Nevermind has taken a lot of people by surprise including the band. ST THOMAS |
[12:01.50] | I' ll never get over the shock and that' s kinda good. KURT |
[12:04.17] | It was, um, sort of a really, whatever, organic thing, there wasn' t any massive hype. DAVE |
[12:10.92] | I mean there is definitely no big million dollar investment, in, KURT |
[12:14.67] | in promotion behind this record at all, it' s totally organic, and it just happened. KURT |
[12:19.26] | Y' know, whatever' s happened, is, was surely out of our control, KRIST |
[12:22.41] | and I' m glad it' s happened y' know it' s nice to sell that many records, KRIST |
[12:25.56] | it' s nice to turn on people to something different. KRIST |
[12:28.11] | People tellin' me " Oh yeah you guy' s record", " I think you guys are gonna go platinum", KRIST |
[12:32.10] | and we' re like " Oh man, c' mon, y' know, if we get a gold record outta this, that' ll be amazing". KRIST |
[12:36.97] | It' s not my fault. I never wanted the fame involved. KURT |
[12:40.82] | That' s, That' s a totally different story. KURT |
[12:43.31] | I think Paul Stanley once said something like, KURT |
[12:46.45] | " Only thing that money gives you is relief of not having to worry about money." KURT |
[12:50.91] | Only thing I' d really like to do with it, is to invest in some bands that I like, KURT |
[12:55.02] | I, I don' t wanna start my own record label cause God, KURT |
[12:58.76] | I know I couldn' t do that. KURT |
[13:01.46] | But I' d like to give some money to some labels who' re putting out great music, help in that way. KURT |
[13:08.27] | And um, probably gonna buy a house. KURT |
[13:09.75] | Hopefully we can have a recording studio too a little 8track recording studio, KURT |
[13:14.01] | so we can make good demos. KURT |
[13:16.70] | And those are pretty much the plans and just get some new shoes. KURT |
[13:19.00] | Smell like teen spirit |
ti: Nevermind, It' s an Interview, Pt. 3 | |
ar: Nirvana | |
al: With The Lights Out | |
re: jiǎn yì gē cí biān jí qì For UWP | |
ve: 2. 11. 4 | |
[00:01.34] | Welcome back to Nevermind it' s an interview. ST THOMAS |
[00:04.35] | Inspirations comes in many forms, and for Nirvana, ST THOMAS |
[00:08.00] | it came in the form of an obscure Scottish band called the Vaselines. ST THOMAS |
[00:13.05] | Kurt and I were totally into the Vaselines, KRIST |
[00:15.44] | I mean they were my favorite band, KRIST |
[00:16.75] | they still are one of my favorite bands. KRIST |
[00:18.50] | Definitely our number one favorite band. KURT |
[00:21.34] | We finally got to play with them, they reformed to play with us, KRIST |
[00:24.90] | when we played Edinburgh, Scotland, in ah, early winter of 1990. KRIST |
[00:29.30] | So we met Eugene, and kinda kept a rap going with them KRIST |
[00:32.65] | then we heard Captain America the band, KRIST |
[00:34.54] | we heard the tape, we were totally blown away. KRIST |
[00:36.14] | Yeah, that' s his new band, Captain America, they' re really good. KURT |
[00:39.39] | Eugene' s a great songwriter, so, yeah! KRIST |
[00:41.24] | Captain America' s gotta go on tour with us! KRIST |
[00:45.00] | Molly' s Lips |
[01:03.00] | Since our record has done so well, KRIST |
[01:05.65] | we can open up doors for other bands, KRIST |
[01:08.10] | from where we come from, KRIST |
[01:09.99] | like Sonic Youth or Mudhoney, or the Melvins, KRIST |
[01:12.60] | or L7, or Dinosaur Jr. I can just go on and on and on and on. KRIST |
[01:16.99] | I guess the best part would be, KURT |
[01:19.94] | being in the position to take other bands, KURT |
[01:22.85] | whom you like a lot, on tour with you. KURT |
[01:25.94] | It' s definitely a nice thing to be able to do. KURT |
[01:29.49] | We took Shonen Knife, a three piece all girl Japanese band KURT |
[01:34.84] | on tour with us in England, KURT |
[01:36.80] | and they' ve been a favorite of ours for years, KURT |
[01:39.15] | and no one really knows who they are in England, or anywhere in Europe. KURT |
[01:42.29] | And we' ve taken the Melvins on tour with us, KURT |
[01:44.85] | and in the future, we hope to take Hole, and Jesus Lizard, KURT |
[01:49.34] | and a bunch of other bands who we like. KURT |
[01:51.00] | Stain |
[02:02.00] | But nothing really exciting happens on tour. KURT |
[02:05.63] | People think that the ' rock star life' is so exciting and it' s, KURT |
[02:10.33] | y' know you play a show, KURT |
[02:12.74] | you usually get into the town by the time it' s dark, KURT |
[02:15.98] | and you sound check, and you don' t get to see the city, KURT |
[02:18.83] | you play the show and then you leave the next morning. KURT |
[02:21.24] | Y' know, you go to the hotel room, and you leave, KURT |
[02:23.99] | and do the same thing over and over again. KURT |
[02:25.98] | It' s kinda boring in a way, I mean still I can' t think of anything else I' d rather do, KURT |
[02:31.54] | but it' s not as exciting as everyone thinks. KURT |
[02:34.74] | But it' s getting harder for me to jump out of the audience now, KURT |
[02:37.89] | because the crowds are bigger and some of the people don' t realize that. KURT |
[02:43.38] | I don' t know what they realize actually, KURT |
[02:45.34] | because they' re putting their hands in my pockets and KURT |
[02:47.94] | trying to steal my money and my wallet, KURT |
[02:50.24] | and they' re they' re hitting me really hard and scratching me, so it' s ... KURT |
[02:56.29] | I dunno, after a while I' m probably not going to be able to do that anymore. KURT |
[02:59.04] | And that' s too bad, cause' it' s a fun little bonding thing to do with the audience. KURT |
[03:03.83] | School, live version |
[05:07.00] | That' s School from the album Bleach recorded live. ST THOMAS |
[05:11.26] | Nirvana says their next album will be different, perhaps even more like Bleach. ST THOMAS |
[05:16.17] | Well our next record' s gonna be different, it' s gonna be way different. KRIST |
[05:19.57] | Well I wouldn' t want to put out two of the same record DAVE |
[05:21.36] | We' d like to record every song differently. KURT |
[05:24.51] | These are just ideas that we have. KRIST |
[05:26.62] | Y' know, I know, I know it' s gonna be a, a record of extremities. KRIST |
[05:30.12] | I think we had our shot at doing the ah, big studio, hightech Hollywood thing, DAVE |
[05:34.61] | whatever y' know I mean, that studio to us, was like, pretty like, techno. DAVE |
[05:39.77] | I dunno, maybe we' ll do the next record on 8track. DAVE |
[05:42.46] | That will be recorded on 8track. KURT |
[05:44.32] | You can get more low end frequencies out of an 8track. DAVE |
[05:46.47] | Go back to the Bleach sound. KURT |
[05:48.31] | Back to that sorta, more along the lines of Bleach. DAVE |
[05:50.57] | Cause' I really liked the production of Bleach, and I, KURT |
[05:53.52] | I dunno, I felt kinda weird straying so far away from it ... KURT |
[05:57.02] | We' ve got this far, with this record. DAVE |
[05:58.62] | There' s definitely going to be some more abrasive songs on our next record. KURT |
[06:01.57] | Y' know, we' re gonna do something, just totally test the limits. DAVE |
[06:05.22] | Really raw and abrasive, to very uh, pretty and candyish. KRIST |
[06:09.67] | All the radio listeners, or the MTV watchers, or whoever, just like, really test them, DAVE |
[06:14.66] | and shove something totally aggro, in their face, and, DAVE |
[06:17.98] | and see if they can handle that. DAVE |
[06:19.00] | Big Cheese |
[06:44.00] | Almost anything that' s musical, is pop music, as far as I' m concerned. KURT |
[06:49.14] | As long as it' s good, and it' s catchy, it' s pop. And y' know, a lot of punk rock is pop. KURT |
[06:54.50] | I think the only time that punk rock strayed away from pop, KURT |
[06:58.29] | was when hardcore came around, y' know, and there was a lot, KURT |
[07:02.50] | y' know, real dirgy stuff also, KURT |
[07:05.79] | like the crossover metal thing, and I really can' t consider a lot of that music. KURT |
[07:10.69] | Y' know, maybe one percent, of the people who are listening to Nevermind, DAVE |
[07:14.94] | that ever bought Nevermind, maybe not one percent, DAVE |
[07:17.15] | but I' m just saying that this, um, a small minority of people DAVE |
[07:19.79] | who are listening to our record now, know about punk rock. DAVE |
[07:23.33] | A lot of people don' t know about punk rock. DAVE |
[07:25.02] | They think about punk rock ... DAVE |
[07:26.23] | and they think of like that Quincy episode where the guy threw the brick off the building. DAVE |
[07:30.02] | I guess, I dunno, I just don' t agree with old punk rock ethos, KURT |
[07:34.32] | of like, you have to starve to be a real artist. It' s bullshit. KURT |
[07:39.00] | Been A Son |
[07:53.00] | We don' t like to think of ourselves as a political band, KURT |
[07:56.60] | because y' know, you tend to become too anal, and it becomes ridiculous, KURT |
[08:01.60] | If you shove it down people' s throats y' know, KURT |
[08:03.80] | we just ask people to be aware a little bit, KURT |
[08:05.80] | and I think the songs kinda reflect that. KURT |
[08:07.96] | It' s just another issue, another topic, like we could talk about racism, KRIST |
[08:10.96] | we could talk about feminism, nationalism, I don' t really subscribe to that way of thought, at all. KRIST |
[08:17.60] | There' s just so much corruption going on with the government, KURT |
[08:20.86] | and the Reagan years have definitely set us back, KURT |
[08:24.55] | to where the average teenager feels kinda lost, and there isn' t much hope. KURT |
[08:29.80] | They' re still at least, aware of the mistakes that our parent' s generation has made. KURT |
[08:36.30] | And I just think that it' ll take a little bit of time for kids to start doing the duties KURT |
[08:41.31] | that they' re supposed to do, which is challenge things, like corruption. KURT |
[08:45.55] | " The way American' s money is budgeted by our government, DAVE |
[08:48.55] | it leaves nothing to the education system. DAVE |
[08:51.30] | Teachers are dealing with the future, y' know, DAVE |
[08:54.10] | teachers are dealing with kids growing up, who are gonna take care of me or you, someday. DAVE |
[09:01.35] | Just the education system in general, in a lot of places, is really screwed. DAVE |
[09:06.56] | Y' know, it' s great to get information like that, so you can um, form your own ideas. KRIST |
[09:10.35] | It' d be neat, if like y' know, the 60' s had a like, Abby Hoffman, KRIST |
[09:15.45] | or ah, John Sinclair y' know, Timothy Leary to an extent. KRIST |
[09:19.60] | And they were spokes people, and they were shaking things up, KRIST |
[09:22.70] | and nowadays, there' s not really anybody. KRIST |
[09:24.00] | Territorial Pissings |
[11:44.00] | Territorial Pissings from the multi platinum release Nevermind. ST THOMAS |
[11:48.91] | Since it' s release, the album has topped the billboard charts, ST THOMAS |
[11:52.27] | and the first single Smells Like Teen Spirit has become a topten hit. ST THOMAS |
[11:56.56] | The success of Nevermind has taken a lot of people by surprise including the band. ST THOMAS |
[12:01.50] | I' ll never get over the shock and that' s kinda good. KURT |
[12:04.17] | It was, um, sort of a really, whatever, organic thing, there wasn' t any massive hype. DAVE |
[12:10.92] | I mean there is definitely no big million dollar investment, in, KURT |
[12:14.67] | in promotion behind this record at all, it' s totally organic, and it just happened. KURT |
[12:19.26] | Y' know, whatever' s happened, is, was surely out of our control, KRIST |
[12:22.41] | and I' m glad it' s happened y' know it' s nice to sell that many records, KRIST |
[12:25.56] | it' s nice to turn on people to something different. KRIST |
[12:28.11] | People tellin' me " Oh yeah you guy' s record", " I think you guys are gonna go platinum", KRIST |
[12:32.10] | and we' re like " Oh man, c' mon, y' know, if we get a gold record outta this, that' ll be amazing". KRIST |
[12:36.97] | It' s not my fault. I never wanted the fame involved. KURT |
[12:40.82] | That' s, That' s a totally different story. KURT |
[12:43.31] | I think Paul Stanley once said something like, KURT |
[12:46.45] | " Only thing that money gives you is relief of not having to worry about money." KURT |
[12:50.91] | Only thing I' d really like to do with it, is to invest in some bands that I like, KURT |
[12:55.02] | I, I don' t wanna start my own record label cause God, KURT |
[12:58.76] | I know I couldn' t do that. KURT |
[13:01.46] | But I' d like to give some money to some labels who' re putting out great music, help in that way. KURT |
[13:08.27] | And um, probably gonna buy a house. KURT |
[13:09.75] | Hopefully we can have a recording studio too a little 8track recording studio, KURT |
[13:14.01] | so we can make good demos. KURT |
[13:16.70] | And those are pretty much the plans and just get some new shoes. KURT |
[13:19.00] | Smell like teen spirit |
[00:01.34] | 欢迎回到Nevermind采访。 |
[00:04.35] | 一个乐队的灵感可能来自方方面面。对于Nirvana来说, |
[00:08.00] | 一支不太出名的苏格兰乐队“Vaselines”带给他们不少启发。 |
[00:13.05] | 我跟Kurt非常喜欢Vaselines, |
[00:15.44] | 它曾是我最爱的乐队, |
[00:16.75] | 现在仍是我最爱的乐队之一。 |
[00:18.50] | 绝对是我们最喜欢的乐队之一。 |
[00:21.34] | 我们后来和他们在一起演出,他们也稍改了风格和我们一起表演。 |
[00:24.90] | 1990年初冬的时候……我们在苏格兰爱丁堡演出。 |
[00:29.30] | 在那时我们认识了Eugene,和他们一起唱了会儿。 |
[00:32.65] | 然后我们就听到了Capetain America乐队 |
[00:34.54] | 的录音带……震撼人心。 |
[00:36.14] | 嗯,Captain America就是Eugene新组的乐队。超棒的。 |
[00:39.39] | Eugene写歌真的好。 |
[00:41.24] | 所以我们决定让Captain America加入我们的巡演! |
[00:45.00] | Molly's Lips |
[01:03.00] | 我们后来唱片卖得挺不错, |
[01:05.65] | 所以我们能帮一帮其他的乐队, |
[01:08.10] | 那些影响了我们的乐队们。 |
[01:09.99] | 比如Sonic Youth, Mudhoney, Melvins, |
[01:12.60] | L7, Dinosaur Jr.等等。不胜枚举。 |
[01:16.99] | 有能力让喜爱的乐队 |
[01:19.94] | 同自己一道巡演 |
[01:22.85] | 是很棒的事情。 |
[01:25.94] | 这真的很不错。 |
[01:29.49] | 我们带着日本的三人女子乐队Shonen Knife |
[01:34.84] | 在英国巡演过。 |
[01:36.80] | 我们喜欢Shonen Knife很有几年了, |
[01:39.15] | 但在英国,甚至是全欧洲,根本没几个人知道她们。 |
[01:42.29] | 我们也带着Melvins去巡演过。 |
[01:44.85] | 将来我们想带上Hole,Jesus Lizard |
[01:49.34] | 和其他一堆我们喜欢的乐队一起。 |
[01:51.00] | stain |
[02:02.00] | 不过巡演本身没什么意思。 |
[02:05.63] | 人们总是想象“摇滚明星的生活”应该很酷,每天都过得挺激动… |
[02:10.33] | …但你知道的,你就是演个出, |
[02:12.74] | 总是在天都黑了的时候才到个地方, |
[02:15.98] | 试试音,根本没机会看一眼你演出的城市。 |
[02:18.83] | 演出完了第二天早上你就又要走。 |
[02:21.24] | 你知道的——住进个宾馆,然后离开, |
[02:23.99] | 一样的事情反复做上个千百遍。 |
[02:25.98] | 说实话有点无聊。我是说我确实也想不出我能去干点别的什么, |
[02:31.54] | 但巡演生活一点都没有其他人想的有趣。 |
[02:34.74] | 不过现在让我远离乐迷也越来越难了。 |
[02:37.89] | 来听我们演出的人越来越多,有的人没意识到这一点。 |
[02:43.38] | 我也不知道他们到底意识到了什么… |
[02:45.34] | …因为他们会把手伸到我口袋里 |
[02:47.94] | 偷我钱包。 |
[02:50.24] | 而且他们——他们打我,手很重,抓伤我…… |
[02:56.29] | 我不懂……或许再过一阵子我就再也演出不了了。 |
[02:59.04] | 挺糟糕的,演出其实是我和乐迷间挺有趣的小纽带。 |
[03:03.83] | School,现场版 |
[05:07.00] | 刚刚播放的是录音室专辑《bleach》的live中的《school》。 |
[05:11.26] | Nirvana说他们的下张专辑会和以往不同,或许风格上会更接近《bleach》。 |
[05:16.17] | 嗯,我们下张碟打算做点不一样的、很不一样的东西。 |
[05:19.57] | 谁想搞两张一样的专辑出来。 |
[05:21.36] | 我们其实想每首歌都录得不一样。 |
[05:24.51] | 这只是我们的一种想法。 |
[05:26.62] | 你知道……我知道我们这张专首首都会比较极端。 |
[05:30.12] | 我们应该会在个大录音棚,高级的那种里面做。 |
[05:34.61] | 我的意思是……那个棚对我们来说挺高科技。 |
[05:39.77] | 我也不知道……也许我们下张碟可能会是8轨录音的。 |
[05:42.46] | 下张碟要8轨录音。 |
[05:44.32] | 这样你可以多弄点低频、低保真音效什么的。 |
[05:46.47] | 嗯,回归《bleach》那种感觉。 |
[05:48.31] | 回到那种风格里去,往《bleach》靠近。 |
[05:50.57] | 我真的很喜欢《bleach》……我… |
[05:53.52] | …我也不太明白,我感觉……如果偏离它太远,我总觉得怪怪的。 |
[05:57.02] | 因为在《bleach》里我们走的蛮远的了(音乐上)。 |
[05:58.62] | 下张专辑里绝对会有更激进的曲子。 |
[06:01.57] | 你知道的,我们想试试边界在哪里。 |
[06:05.22] | 从绝对的生硬粗粝到……绝对的甜美可爱。 |
[06:09.67] | 同时也是试试听众的极限在哪里:听收音机的,看mtv的,等等。 |
[06:14.66] | 把极端激进的东西直接甩到他们脸上, |
[06:17.98] | 看看他们能不能接受? |
[06:19.00] | Big Cheese |
[06:44.00] | 我觉得所有有音乐性的东西都算流行音乐。 |
[06:49.14] | 只要它质量不错,好听,听的人多。你知道的,许多朋克摇滚其实也是流行乐。 |
[06:54.50] | 但我认为只有朋克摇滚远离流行乐时, |
[06:58.29] | 所谓“硬核”性才会显现…… |
[07:02.50] | 现在有不少令人不快的东西, |
[07:05.79] | 比如混合点金属乐之类的,我真的想都不敢想这种音乐…… |
[07:10.69] | 假如100个人里有1个,甚至不到1个, |
[07:14.94] | 在听Nevermind,或是买过这张碟—— |
[07:17.15] | 我的意思是会有那么一小撮人 |
[07:19.79] | 现在在听我们的专辑,了解朋克摇滚。 |
[07:23.33] | 许多人对朋克摇滚一无所知, |
[07:25.02] | 他们想到朋克就想到 |
[07:26.23] | 电视剧《法医昆西》某集里往楼外扔砖头的那人。(?不确定) |
[07:30.02] | 我想……我也不知道……我只是不怎么同意朋克摇滚界的那老一套想法, |
[07:34.32] | 比如说“你必须吃尽苦头才能当个艺术家”。狗屁。 |
[07:39.00] | Been A Son |
[07:53.00] | 我们不愿意视自己为所谓的政治性乐队, |
[07:56.60] | 把观点意见直接捅进人们喉咙里… |
[08:01.60] | …太直白了真的荒谬。 |
[08:03.80] | 我们只想让人们意识到一点点。 |
[08:05.80] | 我们的曲子就是这样子。 |
[08:07.96] | 这是另一码事。我们可以去讨论种族歧视, |
[08:10.96] | 女权主义,国际主义。我只是完全不赞同这种想法。 |
[08:17.60] | 现在政府里到处是腐败, |
[08:20.86] | Reagen任职的这些年只是让我们倒退—— |
[08:24.55] | 退回到年轻人们普遍迷茫,失望绝望的年代。 |
[08:29.80] | 不过他们至少意识到了我们父母一代人犯过的错。 |
[08:36.30] | 我觉得不要多久年轻人们就会开始做他们被期望去做的那些事情, |
[08:41.31] | 比如贪污腐败什么的。 |
[08:45.55] | 美国财政体系根本没给教育拨钱。 |
[08:48.55] | 你知道的, |
[08:51.30] | 教师是在培育“未来”。 |
[08:54.10] | 教师们在培育那些将来会照顾你我的小孩。 |
[09:01.35] | 总的来说教育体系在各方面都糟糕透顶。 |
[09:06.56] | 明白“你能有自己的想法”是很好的…… |
[09:10.35] | 在某种程度上就像60年代的Abby Hoffman, |
[09:15.45] | John Sinclair,Timothy Leary那样…… |
[09:19.60] | 他们为普通人发声,尝试去改变现状。 |
[09:22.70] | 现在没有人再像他们那样了。 |
[09:24.00] | Territorial Pissings |
[11:44.00] | 刚刚播放的是白金唱片《Nevermind》中的《Territorial Pissings》。 |
[11:48.91] | 这张专辑一发表就位列billboard榜首, |
[11:52.27] | 《Smell like teen spirit》也在单曲榜上排名前十。 |
[11:56.56] | 《Nevermind》的成功让很多人惊讶,甚至包括Nirvana自己。 |
[12:01.50] | 我可能永远没法从这震惊种缓过神来……不过这种感觉其实挺开心。 |
[12:04.17] | 我们完全没炒作过,这件事是自然而然的…… |
[12:10.92] | 我是说这背后绝对没有什么大投资支持去推高销量… |
[12:14.67] | …它就是那样发生了。 |
[12:19.26] | 专辑之火爆远超我们想象。 |
[12:22.41] | 我很高兴能卖出这么多。 |
[12:25.56] | 让人们喜欢上不太一样的东西挺好的。 |
[12:28.11] | 人们见到我会说“我听过你们的专辑”、“我觉得你们能上白金”, |
[12:32.10] | 我们当时回答"别扯了,能黄金我们就谢天谢地了。" |
[12:36.97] | 这不是我的错……我从来不想出名。 |
[12:40.82] | 这是完全不同的事了…… |
[12:43.31] | Paul Stanley有次说过 |
[12:46.45] | “钱能带给你的东西只不过是让你不愁钱”。 |
[12:50.91] | 这些钱我只想拿来资助些我喜欢的乐队, |
[12:55.02] | 我不想去做个人厂牌什么的。 |
[12:58.76] | 我做不了。 |
[13:01.46] | 但我想资助那些做好音乐的厂牌。 |
[13:08.27] | 嗯……我可能会买个房子。 |
[13:09.75] | 希望我们还能弄一个能8轨录音的小录音棚。 |
[13:14.01] | 这样我们就能录一些好点的demo。 |
[13:16.70] | 不过这些都还只是计划,我先要买双新鞋。 |
[13:19.00] | Smell like teen spirit |