歌曲 | Born to Sing |
歌手 | Lana Del Rey |
专辑 | The Profile |
下载 | Image LRC TXT |
[00:00.65] | how are ya? |
[00:01.14] | I’m good, better now. |
[00:03.11] | Good stuff, so, you know the story has been told, over and over again, |
[00:07.25] | in a record amount of time, in the shortest time possible, it’s insane, |
[00:11.35] | so I just want to talk about now, |
[00:13.30] | and just talk about your interests, |
[00:15.02] | talk about what you want to talk about, what do you want to talk about? |
[00:18.28] | Me? I’d like to talk about anything other than myself, |
[00:21.93] | Yeah, I know, what a crazy few months you had huh? |
[00:24.69] | It has been different, yeah. |
[00:27.18] | You have said… |
[00:28.30] | one of the things I really like has been a constant throw out the press |
[00:32.02] | that you’ve had to do is that you said |
[00:34.18] | this has always been something you wanted to do, to make music, |
[00:36.85] | that It really lives and dies with the music, that’s it, the rest is whatever. Right? |
[00:40.34] | I like writing and I like singing, um, |
[00:42.53] | but I’m passionate about it because I enjoy the craft of it, |
[00:46.17] | but I do actually have a big outside life, outside music, |
[00:50.16] | Included in that, in those interests, um film, |
[00:53.60] | I mean, you…you are really into the ardour that feels really cinematic, |
[00:56.76] | I mean when you listen to it. |
[00:58.15] | Well, I’m definitely interested in like having a cinematic soundscape, |
[01:01.66] | like having a record, and I do, I do like film, yeah, I do. |
[01:07.74] | Did it kind of play any role at all, On the album Born to Die? |
[01:10.24] | I mean did you…you mean it’s impossible to make cinematic sound of music |
[01:13.99] | without having a scene in your head, right? |
[01:15.99] | That’s true, you know I think when I wrote the songs, |
[01:19.15] | I was sort of looking back to moments in my past |
[01:21.88] | and trying to paint pictures with my words about the way that things used to be. |
[01:27.10] | And when I met Emile Haynie |
[01:28.61] | who sort of been the famous hip pop producer for the last 10 years, |
[01:31.69] | Could I just stop you there and also point out for those who are listening that |
[01:33.97] | he’s probably the classiest beat maker in New York City. Emile Haynie |
[01:36.43] | He’s really classy, you know when I met him, when I met Justin Parker, |
[01:40.72] | I feel like I met, um, my music soul mate, |
[01:44.03] | and you know, Emile’s beat plus Larry Gold’s string composition really sort of |
[01:50.10] | started to make it cohesive, kind of gorgeous sound for the entire record. |
[01:55.23] | Because, you know, Emile makes modern day hip-hop soul music, I think. |
[01:59.78] | Yeah, like when I found Emile we were sort of an unlikely duel, |
[02:04.07] | but he knew exactly what I was talking about when |
[02:06.92] | I describe the sound of the record I was trying to bring out, |
[02:10.25] | and we’ve just been, God we are together so much, you know. |
[02:14.00] | I bet you…there’ve been times recently where you wish |
[02:16.88] | you were back in the studio in that safe place with him and just making beats. |
[02:18.09] | Yeah I do, a lot of the time, but you know, |
[02:21.05] | I’ve really found like a musical family within the three producers that I met |
[02:26.42] | and you know Emile’s been amazing, really supportive like, Emile |
[02:28.88] | he’s not even moving on to another project yet, |
[02:31.07] | we’re still working on like a mix tape to release in the summer. |
[02:34.38] | Awesome, fantastic, we’re gonna continue to talk to Lana Del Rey, |
[02:37.87] | and we’re gonna play right now the track from her new album born to die. |
[02:44.46] | just kinda…how cool is made of that all, by the way? |
[02:46.96] | Just gorgeous, it was crazy. |
[02:48.85] | Amazing, isn’t it? It smells of music in that. |
[02:50.92] | It does, the band was just like in heaven, |
[02:53.52] | Did they check out the Bing Crosby plaque on the wall? |
[02:55.75] | I don’t know if they saw that. |
[02:57.38] | We spoke briefly when you were in New York City once, |
[03:00.19] | shopping on 5th avenue |
[03:01.47] | I wasn’t shopping, I was like sitting on the corner, |
[03:05.21] | and they were all like, oh she now have fancy, |
[03:08.61] | |
[03:09.66] | You fancy, you think you get fancy huh?“ |
[03:11.90] | I was like, great |
[03:13.51] | So you’re back up here in the UK, |
[03:15.72] | and I suppose given that it was very recent, |
[03:17.93] | we should give you a chance to talk about |
[03:19.18] | what happened last night with the Maccabees, |
[03:20.54] | you know, it’s early for…to be not doing a show, |
[03:23.15] | and it never hurts anybody more than a musician |
[03:25.19] | than has to cancel so what happened? |
[03:27.41] | No one wants to cancel but I just really wasn’t feeling very well |
[03:32.24] | and you know I was…I did the Meadville sessions earlier and afternoon, |
[03:36.42] | pretty much by the end of that I was pretty certain |
[03:40.83] | I couldn’t really go on stage |
[03:42.19] | but like I said I could’ve but you know never really had to cancel the show before… |
[03:48.07] | It’s gone to serious, you hear that? |
[03:50.97] | All of a sudden it got too serious there for a second |
[03:54.25] | all of a sudden it was like the end of The Incredible Hulk for a second, |
[03:57.30] | I would start crying, and you would start crying, and Craig would start crying, |
[04:00.34] | and everyone would cry a little bit, |
[04:01.97] | and we’ve thought better of the end…we don’t wanna go there. |
[04:06.02] | Hahaha |
[04:08.16] | Now that we’re talking about the live thing, |
[04:10.13] | because not everybody necessarily I think should feel |
[04:14.40] | once they make a record they need to rush on and perform it, |
[04:17.50] | I mean if you think about yourself |
[04:18.80] | and the essence of what you are trying to do with your art, with your craft, |
[04:21.08] | and you feel very comfortable in the studio |
[04:22.59] | working with your producers and the people around you, |
[04:24.82] | you know for instance some people when they think about public speaking |
[04:28.15] | it make them wanna throw up |
[04:29.54] | Yeah, most people. |
[04:30.62] | Yeah, I mean how do you feel when… |
[04:31.74] | I mean there’re some musicians for instance, |
[04:32.48] | if I say Dave Grohl one of the thing |
[04:35.25] | you know you look forward to most about being foo fighter is |
[04:37.25] | he goes “pull up and play alive man”!“ |
[04:39.11] | But how do you feel when you think about the idea, |
[04:41.61] | if you see your manager come and say “at least do a tour”, |
[04:43.90] | how does it make you feel right now? |
[04:46.04] | Well it kind of depend on the day for me |
[04:48.07] | like obviously like I’m sort of more, you know, like I do well in the studio, |
[04:53.15] | because I like putting things together kind of with my producers and things like that, |
[04:59.36] | but you know ever since I went on the road |
[05:01.89] | and I realized how many people were out there, |
[05:04.51] | I actually feel pretty good you know on the road, I like to travel |
[05:07.75] | but you know I also really like Brooklyn I like being in New York so I miss home |
[05:12.48] | and I…you know it really depends on the show, |
[05:15.27] | like if it was…I probably wouldn’t play a really giant show, |
[05:18.31] | I would probably you know…but so long as they are kind of small I… |
[05:20.90] | I have a good time. |
[05:22.43] | Yeah right, and many who’ve gone before here |
[05:24.06] | whether it’s Neil Young or Bob Dylan or most recently Adele, |
[05:27.97] | these are the artists that say |
[05:29.67] | “look, if there’s nothing interesting what I have to do live, “ |
[05:32.57] | then I’m gonna pick and chose how I present that” |
[05:35.43] | have you thought about like making it more special for you in the future? |
[05:38.59] | Yeah, definitely, I mean everyone on my team is totally aware |
[05:42.07] | that I like to cap every venue of 900 people |
[05:44.63] | so yeah those artists are good examples, |
[05:47.48] | people who did things on their own terms, |
[05:49.64] | and I think that people that I involved with like they are involved with me |
[05:51.72] | ‘cause I’ll do things the way I want, |
[05:54.77] | what I really cared about was that the record was good, and so I mean… |
[05:59.99] | Too good now, huh? |
[06:03.43] | I know, it’s Ellen, off to their races. |
[06:07.29] | There you go, that horse is bolted, welcome to the modern world. |
[06:09.82] | And this has been an really interesting experience, I wanna talk about that in a sec, |
[06:13.50] | but let just make it light again and let talk about A$AP Rocky, |
[06:17.23] | this guy is just a real breath of fresh air for American rap music, |
[06:22.27] | and I know what a beagle you are as well. |
[06:24.59] | Well, I mean, you know I like the best of the best, |
[06:26.77] | I don’t like it all, but I mean you know like I feel like |
[06:29.50] | energized by yeah like good rap music. |
[06:33.18] | You are a very intriguing character, |
[06:34.52] | you know I just started see your music in the way you know |
[06:36.74] | you are the kind of subject matter of your song I think |
[06:38.74] | you find yourself meeting a hero in some |
[06:39.97] | pretty interesting environments you know. |
[06:41.47] | Oh I like that prediction. |
[06:43.11] | Right. And this’s been an fascinating experiment |
[06:46.13] | watching this all happen from my point of view, |
[06:48.27] | for one very specific reason which is the music that you’ve made, |
[06:51.80] | the art that you’ve tested along all the videos and photographs, |
[06:55.08] | the way that you’ve present yourself be honest or otherwise, |
[06:59.03] | that’s your, that’s entirely your business by the way, |
[07:01.36] | but I believe it’s absolutely honest, |
[07:03.24] | but what is done is it conjured up an essence of time that’s come before us, |
[07:09.57] | and yet it’s found it’s way to people in the most modern way imaginable. |
[07:13.77] | Right |
[07:13.80] | Have you thought about that? And if not, can you now? |
[07:17.81] | Well when I was putting the clips together |
[07:19.98] | like I wasn’t really going necessarily for a vintage feel, |
[07:24.34] | I just knew that I love the quality of vintage film, |
[07:28.32] | but I didn’t think that people would really |
[07:29.99] | think that like a hearkened back to bygone eras so much. |
[07:34.48] | When did you sort of become a digital kid? |
[07:36.81] | Because you grew up in the middle of nowhere, |
[07:38.71] | the internet’s become something that’s changed the way… |
[07:42.01] | you know, everything’s distributed and discovered, |
[07:45.68] | but predominantly music has been completely transformed |
[07:46.66] | and the industry has redefined itself, |
[07:48.16] | I mean when did you sort of become a digital kid |
[07:49.78] | and discovered that it could work for you as an artist. |
[07:52.26] | I mean like in terms of being a digital kid, I had different phases of it, |
[07:56.85] | like I remember when I was 14 years old, |
[07:58.61] | instant messenger came about so like we all met our bf over instant messenger. |
[08:03.49] | It’s like carry a pager of digital isn’t it? |
[08:06.08] | Yeah, I just remembered when that happened |
[08:07.51] | it’s like you just can freaking believe it, |
[08:09.16] | you’re like talking to like the most popular senior in high school |
[08:12.34] | and like “can you sneak the house to meet down the block”, |
[08:14.92] | that was crazy, and then you know, |
[08:18.65] | I didn’t really pay attention to the internet |
[08:20.73] | like I’ve always been a big believer in the internet |
[08:23.67] | know a lot of people who are sort of you know trying to use it |
[08:27.42] | to unify the world in a good way, and make our world one, you know, one small globe community |
[08:33.44] | where information could travel quickly and you know help could travel quickly, |
[08:37.69] | so I mean I never actually thought about in terms of like furthering my music, |
[08:42.33] | I was always putting up music videos on Youtube since I was really young, |
[08:45.90] | just because it was a passion of mine, |
[08:47.75] | I liked editing and things like that, |
[08:49.91] | but I always thought like if anything went well |
[08:53.04] | it’s because someone came to one of my shows, |
[08:56.48] | The traditional approach, “hey that’s good music, I’ll tell someone about it” |
[08:59.67] | Yeah you know I mean that was how I read about |
[09:03.96] | other people sort of getting their music heard, but… |
[09:09.05] | It’s interesting though because now |
[09:10.20] | that’s just a given these days in how we discover music, |
[09:13.04] | but this is a superb saga way here I just come up with in my head, |
[09:17.54] | this is on some broadcasting, this is classic broadcasting material. |
[09:19.99] | Back in the day, you have to rely on classic singer songwriters like |
[09:24.05] | Bob Dylan or John Byer to get the message across you know, |
[09:26.95] | they were the modern day information carriers, back in the day. |
[09:30.72] | Maybe. |
[09:31.57] | They were, I mean that’s to a certain extant how things change works to a song, |
[09:35.27] | you got a track with Bobby Womack on his forthcoming new album, |
[09:38.84] | with Damon Albarn and Richard Russell. |
[09:41.08] | I do |
[09:41.95] | How was that experience for you, working with legend? |
[09:44.40] | It was good, I mean I think they want me to come in after, |
[09:49.35] | like the day they saw me on Jewels, |
[09:51.72] | so really they just you know… |
[09:53.84] | Bobby wanted me to freestyle on just some of the tracks he had, Bobby |
[09:58.89] | he wanted me to just make a chorus, |
[10:00.35] | so that’s why I did, and it’s been a while now, but it was beautiful. |
[10:05.97] | Well I’ve heard the track |
[10:07.07] | Oh have you? |
[10:07.96] | Yeah, and I can tell you that it’s incredible, |
[10:11.20] | and there’s a note you hit on that song where you go hiiiiiii |
[10:15.97] | and your voice cracks, and I was like “this sounds like Bobby”, |
[10:19.84] | and it’s not, it’s you |
[10:22.06] | Oh shoot |
[10:22.86] | There you go |
[10:23.82] | Hey that’s…I haven’t heard it, |
[10:25.67] | I’m glad they’re gonna use it, you know. |
[10:28.26] | Well fingers crossed, I think it’s amazing, fantastic, |
[10:30.16] | I can’t wait for people to hear that side of you with that track, |
[10:33.29] | it’s gonna be good, interesting. |
[10:34.95] | Lot of things to look forward to, you know, |
[10:37.18] | in terms of this year, ideally having achieved so much in terms of what’s conventionally successful |
[10:42.04] | with lots of people watching Video Games, listening to the songs and the album, |
[10:45.09] | you know, you made it, you did it, congratulations, |
[10:49.68] | you’re a modern day hero, |
[10:50.78] | what do you want to look back on 2012? 2012 |
[10:53.62] | And what do you ideally want to have achieved? |
[10:56.54] | I mean I think the same thing, as I sort of wanna achieve every year, |
[11:00.36] | which is just to have no regrets, and live gracefully, |
[11:03.68] | and I wanted to make a good record, and I did that, so that’s cool. |
[11:08.77] | Yeah, you did, and you know I hope you enjoy that process of getting it out, |
[11:14.22] | and the way people react to the music, |
[11:15.75] | ‘cause you know as well as I do that’s what really matters, |
[11:17.95] | and thank you very much for your time Lana Del Rey. |
[11:20.77] | Thank you. |
[11:21.85] | And we’ll catch up with you when the time’s right, |
[11:23.89] | you’ve started planning any show out here again in the summer |
[11:26.17] | or is it too early to say? |
[11:27.48] | Um, thinking about festivals, kind of have to figure it out. |
[11:31.18] | It’s nice to talk with you. |
[00:00.65] | how are ya? |
[00:01.14] | I' m good, better now. |
[00:03.11] | Good stuff, so, you know the story has been told, over and over again, |
[00:07.25] | in a record amount of time, in the shortest time possible, it' s insane, |
[00:11.35] | so I just want to talk about now, |
[00:13.30] | and just talk about your interests, |
[00:15.02] | talk about what you want to talk about, what do you want to talk about? |
[00:18.28] | Me? I' d like to talk about anything other than myself, |
[00:21.93] | Yeah, I know, what a crazy few months you had huh? |
[00:24.69] | It has been different, yeah. |
[00:27.18] | You have said |
[00:28.30] | one of the things I really like has been a constant throw out the press |
[00:32.02] | that you' ve had to do is that you said |
[00:34.18] | this has always been something you wanted to do, to make music, |
[00:36.85] | that It really lives and dies with the music, that' s it, the rest is whatever. Right? |
[00:40.34] | I like writing and I like singing, um, |
[00:42.53] | but I' m passionate about it because I enjoy the craft of it, |
[00:46.17] | but I do actually have a big outside life, outside music, |
[00:50.16] | Included in that, in those interests, um film, |
[00:53.60] | I mean, you you are really into the ardour that feels really cinematic, |
[00:56.76] | I mean when you listen to it. |
[00:58.15] | Well, I' m definitely interested in like having a cinematic soundscape, |
[01:01.66] | like having a record, and I do, I do like film, yeah, I do. |
[01:07.74] | Did it kind of play any role at all, On the album Born to Die? |
[01:10.24] | I mean did you you mean it' s impossible to make cinematic sound of music |
[01:13.99] | without having a scene in your head, right? |
[01:15.99] | That' s true, you know I think when I wrote the songs, |
[01:19.15] | I was sort of looking back to moments in my past |
[01:21.88] | and trying to paint pictures with my words about the way that things used to be. |
[01:27.10] | And when I met Emile Haynie |
[01:28.61] | who sort of been the famous hip pop producer for the last 10 years, |
[01:31.69] | Could I just stop you there and also point out for those who are listening that |
[01:33.97] | he' s probably the classiest beat maker in New York City. Emile Haynie |
[01:36.43] | He' s really classy, you know when I met him, when I met Justin Parker, |
[01:40.72] | I feel like I met, um, my music soul mate, |
[01:44.03] | and you know, Emile' s beat plus Larry Gold' s string composition really sort of |
[01:50.10] | started to make it cohesive, kind of gorgeous sound for the entire record. |
[01:55.23] | Because, you know, Emile makes modern day hiphop soul music, I think. |
[01:59.78] | Yeah, like when I found Emile we were sort of an unlikely duel, |
[02:04.07] | but he knew exactly what I was talking about when |
[02:06.92] | I describe the sound of the record I was trying to bring out, |
[02:10.25] | and we' ve just been, God we are together so much, you know. |
[02:14.00] | I bet you there' ve been times recently where you wish |
[02:16.88] | you were back in the studio in that safe place with him and just making beats. |
[02:18.09] | Yeah I do, a lot of the time, but you know, |
[02:21.05] | I' ve really found like a musical family within the three producers that I met |
[02:26.42] | and you know Emile' s been amazing, really supportive like, Emile |
[02:28.88] | he' s not even moving on to another project yet, |
[02:31.07] | we' re still working on like a mix tape to release in the summer. |
[02:34.38] | Awesome, fantastic, we' re gonna continue to talk to Lana Del Rey, |
[02:37.87] | and we' re gonna play right now the track from her new album born to die. |
[02:44.46] | just kinda how cool is made of that all, by the way? |
[02:46.96] | Just gorgeous, it was crazy. |
[02:48.85] | Amazing, isn' t it? It smells of music in that. |
[02:50.92] | It does, the band was just like in heaven, |
[02:53.52] | Did they check out the Bing Crosby plaque on the wall? |
[02:55.75] | I don' t know if they saw that. |
[02:57.38] | We spoke briefly when you were in New York City once, |
[03:00.19] | shopping on 5th avenue |
[03:01.47] | I wasn' t shopping, I was like sitting on the corner, |
[03:05.21] | and they were all like, oh she now have fancy, |
[03:08.61] | |
[03:09.66] | You fancy, you think you get fancy huh?" |
[03:11.90] | I was like, great |
[03:13.51] | So you' re back up here in the UK, |
[03:15.72] | and I suppose given that it was very recent, |
[03:17.93] | we should give you a chance to talk about |
[03:19.18] | what happened last night with the Maccabees, |
[03:20.54] | you know, it' s early for to be not doing a show, |
[03:23.15] | and it never hurts anybody more than a musician |
[03:25.19] | than has to cancel so what happened? |
[03:27.41] | No one wants to cancel but I just really wasn' t feeling very well |
[03:32.24] | and you know I was I did the Meadville sessions earlier and afternoon, |
[03:36.42] | pretty much by the end of that I was pretty certain |
[03:40.83] | I couldn' t really go on stage |
[03:42.19] | but like I said I could' ve but you know never really had to cancel the show before |
[03:48.07] | It' s gone to serious, you hear that? |
[03:50.97] | All of a sudden it got too serious there for a second |
[03:54.25] | all of a sudden it was like the end of The Incredible Hulk for a second, |
[03:57.30] | I would start crying, and you would start crying, and Craig would start crying, |
[04:00.34] | and everyone would cry a little bit, |
[04:01.97] | and we' ve thought better of the end we don' t wanna go there. |
[04:06.02] | Hahaha |
[04:08.16] | Now that we' re talking about the live thing, |
[04:10.13] | because not everybody necessarily I think should feel |
[04:14.40] | once they make a record they need to rush on and perform it, |
[04:17.50] | I mean if you think about yourself |
[04:18.80] | and the essence of what you are trying to do with your art, with your craft, |
[04:21.08] | and you feel very comfortable in the studio |
[04:22.59] | working with your producers and the people around you, |
[04:24.82] | you know for instance some people when they think about public speaking |
[04:28.15] | it make them wanna throw up |
[04:29.54] | Yeah, most people. |
[04:30.62] | Yeah, I mean how do you feel when |
[04:31.74] | I mean there' re some musicians for instance, |
[04:32.48] | if I say Dave Grohl one of the thing |
[04:35.25] | you know you look forward to most about being foo fighter is |
[04:37.25] | he goes " pull up and play alive man"!" |
[04:39.11] | But how do you feel when you think about the idea, |
[04:41.61] | if you see your manager come and say " at least do a tour", |
[04:43.90] | how does it make you feel right now? |
[04:46.04] | Well it kind of depend on the day for me |
[04:48.07] | like obviously like I' m sort of more, you know, like I do well in the studio, |
[04:53.15] | because I like putting things together kind of with my producers and things like that, |
[04:59.36] | but you know ever since I went on the road |
[05:01.89] | and I realized how many people were out there, |
[05:04.51] | I actually feel pretty good you know on the road, I like to travel |
[05:07.75] | but you know I also really like Brooklyn I like being in New York so I miss home |
[05:12.48] | and I you know it really depends on the show, |
[05:15.27] | like if it was I probably wouldn' t play a really giant show, |
[05:18.31] | I would probably you know but so long as they are kind of small I |
[05:20.90] | I have a good time. |
[05:22.43] | Yeah right, and many who' ve gone before here |
[05:24.06] | whether it' s Neil Young or Bob Dylan or most recently Adele, |
[05:27.97] | these are the artists that say |
[05:29.67] | " look, if there' s nothing interesting what I have to do live, " |
[05:32.57] | then I' m gonna pick and chose how I present that" |
[05:35.43] | have you thought about like making it more special for you in the future? |
[05:38.59] | Yeah, definitely, I mean everyone on my team is totally aware |
[05:42.07] | that I like to cap every venue of 900 people |
[05:44.63] | so yeah those artists are good examples, |
[05:47.48] | people who did things on their own terms, |
[05:49.64] | and I think that people that I involved with like they are involved with me |
[05:51.72] | ' cause I' ll do things the way I want, |
[05:54.77] | what I really cared about was that the record was good, and so I mean |
[05:59.99] | Too good now, huh? |
[06:03.43] | I know, it' s Ellen, off to their races. |
[06:07.29] | There you go, that horse is bolted, welcome to the modern world. |
[06:09.82] | And this has been an really interesting experience, I wanna talk about that in a sec, |
[06:13.50] | but let just make it light again and let talk about A AP Rocky, |
[06:17.23] | this guy is just a real breath of fresh air for American rap music, |
[06:22.27] | and I know what a beagle you are as well. |
[06:24.59] | Well, I mean, you know I like the best of the best, |
[06:26.77] | I don' t like it all, but I mean you know like I feel like |
[06:29.50] | energized by yeah like good rap music. |
[06:33.18] | You are a very intriguing character, |
[06:34.52] | you know I just started see your music in the way you know |
[06:36.74] | you are the kind of subject matter of your song I think |
[06:38.74] | you find yourself meeting a hero in some |
[06:39.97] | pretty interesting environments you know. |
[06:41.47] | Oh I like that prediction. |
[06:43.11] | Right. And this' s been an fascinating experiment |
[06:46.13] | watching this all happen from my point of view, |
[06:48.27] | for one very specific reason which is the music that you' ve made, |
[06:51.80] | the art that you' ve tested along all the videos and photographs, |
[06:55.08] | the way that you' ve present yourself be honest or otherwise, |
[06:59.03] | that' s your, that' s entirely your business by the way, |
[07:01.36] | but I believe it' s absolutely honest, |
[07:03.24] | but what is done is it conjured up an essence of time that' s come before us, |
[07:09.57] | and yet it' s found it' s way to people in the most modern way imaginable. |
[07:13.77] | Right |
[07:13.80] | Have you thought about that? And if not, can you now? |
[07:17.81] | Well when I was putting the clips together |
[07:19.98] | like I wasn' t really going necessarily for a vintage feel, |
[07:24.34] | I just knew that I love the quality of vintage film, |
[07:28.32] | but I didn' t think that people would really |
[07:29.99] | think that like a hearkened back to bygone eras so much. |
[07:34.48] | When did you sort of become a digital kid? |
[07:36.81] | Because you grew up in the middle of nowhere, |
[07:38.71] | the internet' s become something that' s changed the way |
[07:42.01] | you know, everything' s distributed and discovered, |
[07:45.68] | but predominantly music has been completely transformed |
[07:46.66] | and the industry has redefined itself, |
[07:48.16] | I mean when did you sort of become a digital kid |
[07:49.78] | and discovered that it could work for you as an artist. |
[07:52.26] | I mean like in terms of being a digital kid, I had different phases of it, |
[07:56.85] | like I remember when I was 14 years old, |
[07:58.61] | instant messenger came about so like we all met our bf over instant messenger. |
[08:03.49] | It' s like carry a pager of digital isn' t it? |
[08:06.08] | Yeah, I just remembered when that happened |
[08:07.51] | it' s like you just can freaking believe it, |
[08:09.16] | you' re like talking to like the most popular senior in high school |
[08:12.34] | and like " can you sneak the house to meet down the block", |
[08:14.92] | that was crazy, and then you know, |
[08:18.65] | I didn' t really pay attention to the internet |
[08:20.73] | like I' ve always been a big believer in the internet |
[08:23.67] | know a lot of people who are sort of you know trying to use it |
[08:27.42] | to unify the world in a good way, and make our world one, you know, one small globe community |
[08:33.44] | where information could travel quickly and you know help could travel quickly, |
[08:37.69] | so I mean I never actually thought about in terms of like furthering my music, |
[08:42.33] | I was always putting up music videos on Youtube since I was really young, |
[08:45.90] | just because it was a passion of mine, |
[08:47.75] | I liked editing and things like that, |
[08:49.91] | but I always thought like if anything went well |
[08:53.04] | it' s because someone came to one of my shows, |
[08:56.48] | The traditional approach, " hey that' s good music, I' ll tell someone about it" |
[08:59.67] | Yeah you know I mean that was how I read about |
[09:03.96] | other people sort of getting their music heard, but |
[09:09.05] | It' s interesting though because now |
[09:10.20] | that' s just a given these days in how we discover music, |
[09:13.04] | but this is a superb saga way here I just come up with in my head, |
[09:17.54] | this is on some broadcasting, this is classic broadcasting material. |
[09:19.99] | Back in the day, you have to rely on classic singer songwriters like |
[09:24.05] | Bob Dylan or John Byer to get the message across you know, |
[09:26.95] | they were the modern day information carriers, back in the day. |
[09:30.72] | Maybe. |
[09:31.57] | They were, I mean that' s to a certain extant how things change works to a song, |
[09:35.27] | you got a track with Bobby Womack on his forthcoming new album, |
[09:38.84] | with Damon Albarn and Richard Russell. |
[09:41.08] | I do |
[09:41.95] | How was that experience for you, working with legend? |
[09:44.40] | It was good, I mean I think they want me to come in after, |
[09:49.35] | like the day they saw me on Jewels, |
[09:51.72] | so really they just you know |
[09:53.84] | Bobby wanted me to freestyle on just some of the tracks he had, Bobby |
[09:58.89] | he wanted me to just make a chorus, |
[10:00.35] | so that' s why I did, and it' s been a while now, but it was beautiful. |
[10:05.97] | Well I' ve heard the track |
[10:07.07] | Oh have you? |
[10:07.96] | Yeah, and I can tell you that it' s incredible, |
[10:11.20] | and there' s a note you hit on that song where you go hiiiiiii |
[10:15.97] | and your voice cracks, and I was like " this sounds like Bobby", |
[10:19.84] | and it' s not, it' s you |
[10:22.06] | Oh shoot |
[10:22.86] | There you go |
[10:23.82] | Hey that' s I haven' t heard it, |
[10:25.67] | I' m glad they' re gonna use it, you know. |
[10:28.26] | Well fingers crossed, I think it' s amazing, fantastic, |
[10:30.16] | I can' t wait for people to hear that side of you with that track, |
[10:33.29] | it' s gonna be good, interesting. |
[10:34.95] | Lot of things to look forward to, you know, |
[10:37.18] | in terms of this year, ideally having achieved so much in terms of what' s conventionally successful |
[10:42.04] | with lots of people watching Video Games, listening to the songs and the album, |
[10:45.09] | you know, you made it, you did it, congratulations, |
[10:49.68] | you' re a modern day hero, |
[10:50.78] | what do you want to look back on 2012? 2012 |
[10:53.62] | And what do you ideally want to have achieved? |
[10:56.54] | I mean I think the same thing, as I sort of wanna achieve every year, |
[11:00.36] | which is just to have no regrets, and live gracefully, |
[11:03.68] | and I wanted to make a good record, and I did that, so that' s cool. |
[11:08.77] | Yeah, you did, and you know I hope you enjoy that process of getting it out, |
[11:14.22] | and the way people react to the music, |
[11:15.75] | ' cause you know as well as I do that' s what really matters, |
[11:17.95] | and thank you very much for your time Lana Del Rey. |
[11:20.77] | Thank you. |
[11:21.85] | And we' ll catch up with you when the time' s right, |
[11:23.89] | you' ve started planning any show out here again in the summer |
[11:26.17] | or is it too early to say? |
[11:27.48] | Um, thinking about festivals, kind of have to figure it out. |
[11:31.18] | It' s nice to talk with you. |
[00:00.65] | how are ya? |
[00:01.14] | I' m good, better now. |
[00:03.11] | Good stuff, so, you know the story has been told, over and over again, |
[00:07.25] | in a record amount of time, in the shortest time possible, it' s insane, |
[00:11.35] | so I just want to talk about now, |
[00:13.30] | and just talk about your interests, |
[00:15.02] | talk about what you want to talk about, what do you want to talk about? |
[00:18.28] | Me? I' d like to talk about anything other than myself, |
[00:21.93] | Yeah, I know, what a crazy few months you had huh? |
[00:24.69] | It has been different, yeah. |
[00:27.18] | You have said |
[00:28.30] | one of the things I really like has been a constant throw out the press |
[00:32.02] | that you' ve had to do is that you said |
[00:34.18] | this has always been something you wanted to do, to make music, |
[00:36.85] | that It really lives and dies with the music, that' s it, the rest is whatever. Right? |
[00:40.34] | I like writing and I like singing, um, |
[00:42.53] | but I' m passionate about it because I enjoy the craft of it, |
[00:46.17] | but I do actually have a big outside life, outside music, |
[00:50.16] | Included in that, in those interests, um film, |
[00:53.60] | I mean, you you are really into the ardour that feels really cinematic, |
[00:56.76] | I mean when you listen to it. |
[00:58.15] | Well, I' m definitely interested in like having a cinematic soundscape, |
[01:01.66] | like having a record, and I do, I do like film, yeah, I do. |
[01:07.74] | Did it kind of play any role at all, On the album Born to Die? |
[01:10.24] | I mean did you you mean it' s impossible to make cinematic sound of music |
[01:13.99] | without having a scene in your head, right? |
[01:15.99] | That' s true, you know I think when I wrote the songs, |
[01:19.15] | I was sort of looking back to moments in my past |
[01:21.88] | and trying to paint pictures with my words about the way that things used to be. |
[01:27.10] | And when I met Emile Haynie |
[01:28.61] | who sort of been the famous hip pop producer for the last 10 years, |
[01:31.69] | Could I just stop you there and also point out for those who are listening that |
[01:33.97] | he' s probably the classiest beat maker in New York City. Emile Haynie |
[01:36.43] | He' s really classy, you know when I met him, when I met Justin Parker, |
[01:40.72] | I feel like I met, um, my music soul mate, |
[01:44.03] | and you know, Emile' s beat plus Larry Gold' s string composition really sort of |
[01:50.10] | started to make it cohesive, kind of gorgeous sound for the entire record. |
[01:55.23] | Because, you know, Emile makes modern day hiphop soul music, I think. |
[01:59.78] | Yeah, like when I found Emile we were sort of an unlikely duel, |
[02:04.07] | but he knew exactly what I was talking about when |
[02:06.92] | I describe the sound of the record I was trying to bring out, |
[02:10.25] | and we' ve just been, God we are together so much, you know. |
[02:14.00] | I bet you there' ve been times recently where you wish |
[02:16.88] | you were back in the studio in that safe place with him and just making beats. |
[02:18.09] | Yeah I do, a lot of the time, but you know, |
[02:21.05] | I' ve really found like a musical family within the three producers that I met |
[02:26.42] | and you know Emile' s been amazing, really supportive like, Emile |
[02:28.88] | he' s not even moving on to another project yet, |
[02:31.07] | we' re still working on like a mix tape to release in the summer. |
[02:34.38] | Awesome, fantastic, we' re gonna continue to talk to Lana Del Rey, |
[02:37.87] | and we' re gonna play right now the track from her new album born to die. |
[02:44.46] | just kinda how cool is made of that all, by the way? |
[02:46.96] | Just gorgeous, it was crazy. |
[02:48.85] | Amazing, isn' t it? It smells of music in that. |
[02:50.92] | It does, the band was just like in heaven, |
[02:53.52] | Did they check out the Bing Crosby plaque on the wall? |
[02:55.75] | I don' t know if they saw that. |
[02:57.38] | We spoke briefly when you were in New York City once, |
[03:00.19] | shopping on 5th avenue |
[03:01.47] | I wasn' t shopping, I was like sitting on the corner, |
[03:05.21] | and they were all like, oh she now have fancy, |
[03:08.61] | |
[03:09.66] | You fancy, you think you get fancy huh?" |
[03:11.90] | I was like, great |
[03:13.51] | So you' re back up here in the UK, |
[03:15.72] | and I suppose given that it was very recent, |
[03:17.93] | we should give you a chance to talk about |
[03:19.18] | what happened last night with the Maccabees, |
[03:20.54] | you know, it' s early for to be not doing a show, |
[03:23.15] | and it never hurts anybody more than a musician |
[03:25.19] | than has to cancel so what happened? |
[03:27.41] | No one wants to cancel but I just really wasn' t feeling very well |
[03:32.24] | and you know I was I did the Meadville sessions earlier and afternoon, |
[03:36.42] | pretty much by the end of that I was pretty certain |
[03:40.83] | I couldn' t really go on stage |
[03:42.19] | but like I said I could' ve but you know never really had to cancel the show before |
[03:48.07] | It' s gone to serious, you hear that? |
[03:50.97] | All of a sudden it got too serious there for a second |
[03:54.25] | all of a sudden it was like the end of The Incredible Hulk for a second, |
[03:57.30] | I would start crying, and you would start crying, and Craig would start crying, |
[04:00.34] | and everyone would cry a little bit, |
[04:01.97] | and we' ve thought better of the end we don' t wanna go there. |
[04:06.02] | Hahaha |
[04:08.16] | Now that we' re talking about the live thing, |
[04:10.13] | because not everybody necessarily I think should feel |
[04:14.40] | once they make a record they need to rush on and perform it, |
[04:17.50] | I mean if you think about yourself |
[04:18.80] | and the essence of what you are trying to do with your art, with your craft, |
[04:21.08] | and you feel very comfortable in the studio |
[04:22.59] | working with your producers and the people around you, |
[04:24.82] | you know for instance some people when they think about public speaking |
[04:28.15] | it make them wanna throw up |
[04:29.54] | Yeah, most people. |
[04:30.62] | Yeah, I mean how do you feel when |
[04:31.74] | I mean there' re some musicians for instance, |
[04:32.48] | if I say Dave Grohl one of the thing |
[04:35.25] | you know you look forward to most about being foo fighter is |
[04:37.25] | he goes " pull up and play alive man"!" |
[04:39.11] | But how do you feel when you think about the idea, |
[04:41.61] | if you see your manager come and say " at least do a tour", |
[04:43.90] | how does it make you feel right now? |
[04:46.04] | Well it kind of depend on the day for me |
[04:48.07] | like obviously like I' m sort of more, you know, like I do well in the studio, |
[04:53.15] | because I like putting things together kind of with my producers and things like that, |
[04:59.36] | but you know ever since I went on the road |
[05:01.89] | and I realized how many people were out there, |
[05:04.51] | I actually feel pretty good you know on the road, I like to travel |
[05:07.75] | but you know I also really like Brooklyn I like being in New York so I miss home |
[05:12.48] | and I you know it really depends on the show, |
[05:15.27] | like if it was I probably wouldn' t play a really giant show, |
[05:18.31] | I would probably you know but so long as they are kind of small I |
[05:20.90] | I have a good time. |
[05:22.43] | Yeah right, and many who' ve gone before here |
[05:24.06] | whether it' s Neil Young or Bob Dylan or most recently Adele, |
[05:27.97] | these are the artists that say |
[05:29.67] | " look, if there' s nothing interesting what I have to do live, " |
[05:32.57] | then I' m gonna pick and chose how I present that" |
[05:35.43] | have you thought about like making it more special for you in the future? |
[05:38.59] | Yeah, definitely, I mean everyone on my team is totally aware |
[05:42.07] | that I like to cap every venue of 900 people |
[05:44.63] | so yeah those artists are good examples, |
[05:47.48] | people who did things on their own terms, |
[05:49.64] | and I think that people that I involved with like they are involved with me |
[05:51.72] | ' cause I' ll do things the way I want, |
[05:54.77] | what I really cared about was that the record was good, and so I mean |
[05:59.99] | Too good now, huh? |
[06:03.43] | I know, it' s Ellen, off to their races. |
[06:07.29] | There you go, that horse is bolted, welcome to the modern world. |
[06:09.82] | And this has been an really interesting experience, I wanna talk about that in a sec, |
[06:13.50] | but let just make it light again and let talk about A AP Rocky, |
[06:17.23] | this guy is just a real breath of fresh air for American rap music, |
[06:22.27] | and I know what a beagle you are as well. |
[06:24.59] | Well, I mean, you know I like the best of the best, |
[06:26.77] | I don' t like it all, but I mean you know like I feel like |
[06:29.50] | energized by yeah like good rap music. |
[06:33.18] | You are a very intriguing character, |
[06:34.52] | you know I just started see your music in the way you know |
[06:36.74] | you are the kind of subject matter of your song I think |
[06:38.74] | you find yourself meeting a hero in some |
[06:39.97] | pretty interesting environments you know. |
[06:41.47] | Oh I like that prediction. |
[06:43.11] | Right. And this' s been an fascinating experiment |
[06:46.13] | watching this all happen from my point of view, |
[06:48.27] | for one very specific reason which is the music that you' ve made, |
[06:51.80] | the art that you' ve tested along all the videos and photographs, |
[06:55.08] | the way that you' ve present yourself be honest or otherwise, |
[06:59.03] | that' s your, that' s entirely your business by the way, |
[07:01.36] | but I believe it' s absolutely honest, |
[07:03.24] | but what is done is it conjured up an essence of time that' s come before us, |
[07:09.57] | and yet it' s found it' s way to people in the most modern way imaginable. |
[07:13.77] | Right |
[07:13.80] | Have you thought about that? And if not, can you now? |
[07:17.81] | Well when I was putting the clips together |
[07:19.98] | like I wasn' t really going necessarily for a vintage feel, |
[07:24.34] | I just knew that I love the quality of vintage film, |
[07:28.32] | but I didn' t think that people would really |
[07:29.99] | think that like a hearkened back to bygone eras so much. |
[07:34.48] | When did you sort of become a digital kid? |
[07:36.81] | Because you grew up in the middle of nowhere, |
[07:38.71] | the internet' s become something that' s changed the way |
[07:42.01] | you know, everything' s distributed and discovered, |
[07:45.68] | but predominantly music has been completely transformed |
[07:46.66] | and the industry has redefined itself, |
[07:48.16] | I mean when did you sort of become a digital kid |
[07:49.78] | and discovered that it could work for you as an artist. |
[07:52.26] | I mean like in terms of being a digital kid, I had different phases of it, |
[07:56.85] | like I remember when I was 14 years old, |
[07:58.61] | instant messenger came about so like we all met our bf over instant messenger. |
[08:03.49] | It' s like carry a pager of digital isn' t it? |
[08:06.08] | Yeah, I just remembered when that happened |
[08:07.51] | it' s like you just can freaking believe it, |
[08:09.16] | you' re like talking to like the most popular senior in high school |
[08:12.34] | and like " can you sneak the house to meet down the block", |
[08:14.92] | that was crazy, and then you know, |
[08:18.65] | I didn' t really pay attention to the internet |
[08:20.73] | like I' ve always been a big believer in the internet |
[08:23.67] | know a lot of people who are sort of you know trying to use it |
[08:27.42] | to unify the world in a good way, and make our world one, you know, one small globe community |
[08:33.44] | where information could travel quickly and you know help could travel quickly, |
[08:37.69] | so I mean I never actually thought about in terms of like furthering my music, |
[08:42.33] | I was always putting up music videos on Youtube since I was really young, |
[08:45.90] | just because it was a passion of mine, |
[08:47.75] | I liked editing and things like that, |
[08:49.91] | but I always thought like if anything went well |
[08:53.04] | it' s because someone came to one of my shows, |
[08:56.48] | The traditional approach, " hey that' s good music, I' ll tell someone about it" |
[08:59.67] | Yeah you know I mean that was how I read about |
[09:03.96] | other people sort of getting their music heard, but |
[09:09.05] | It' s interesting though because now |
[09:10.20] | that' s just a given these days in how we discover music, |
[09:13.04] | but this is a superb saga way here I just come up with in my head, |
[09:17.54] | this is on some broadcasting, this is classic broadcasting material. |
[09:19.99] | Back in the day, you have to rely on classic singer songwriters like |
[09:24.05] | Bob Dylan or John Byer to get the message across you know, |
[09:26.95] | they were the modern day information carriers, back in the day. |
[09:30.72] | Maybe. |
[09:31.57] | They were, I mean that' s to a certain extant how things change works to a song, |
[09:35.27] | you got a track with Bobby Womack on his forthcoming new album, |
[09:38.84] | with Damon Albarn and Richard Russell. |
[09:41.08] | I do |
[09:41.95] | How was that experience for you, working with legend? |
[09:44.40] | It was good, I mean I think they want me to come in after, |
[09:49.35] | like the day they saw me on Jewels, |
[09:51.72] | so really they just you know |
[09:53.84] | Bobby wanted me to freestyle on just some of the tracks he had, Bobby |
[09:58.89] | he wanted me to just make a chorus, |
[10:00.35] | so that' s why I did, and it' s been a while now, but it was beautiful. |
[10:05.97] | Well I' ve heard the track |
[10:07.07] | Oh have you? |
[10:07.96] | Yeah, and I can tell you that it' s incredible, |
[10:11.20] | and there' s a note you hit on that song where you go hiiiiiii |
[10:15.97] | and your voice cracks, and I was like " this sounds like Bobby", |
[10:19.84] | and it' s not, it' s you |
[10:22.06] | Oh shoot |
[10:22.86] | There you go |
[10:23.82] | Hey that' s I haven' t heard it, |
[10:25.67] | I' m glad they' re gonna use it, you know. |
[10:28.26] | Well fingers crossed, I think it' s amazing, fantastic, |
[10:30.16] | I can' t wait for people to hear that side of you with that track, |
[10:33.29] | it' s gonna be good, interesting. |
[10:34.95] | Lot of things to look forward to, you know, |
[10:37.18] | in terms of this year, ideally having achieved so much in terms of what' s conventionally successful |
[10:42.04] | with lots of people watching Video Games, listening to the songs and the album, |
[10:45.09] | you know, you made it, you did it, congratulations, |
[10:49.68] | you' re a modern day hero, |
[10:50.78] | what do you want to look back on 2012? 2012 |
[10:53.62] | And what do you ideally want to have achieved? |
[10:56.54] | I mean I think the same thing, as I sort of wanna achieve every year, |
[11:00.36] | which is just to have no regrets, and live gracefully, |
[11:03.68] | and I wanted to make a good record, and I did that, so that' s cool. |
[11:08.77] | Yeah, you did, and you know I hope you enjoy that process of getting it out, |
[11:14.22] | and the way people react to the music, |
[11:15.75] | ' cause you know as well as I do that' s what really matters, |
[11:17.95] | and thank you very much for your time Lana Del Rey. |
[11:20.77] | Thank you. |
[11:21.85] | And we' ll catch up with you when the time' s right, |
[11:23.89] | you' ve started planning any show out here again in the summer |
[11:26.17] | or is it too early to say? |
[11:27.48] | Um, thinking about festivals, kind of have to figure it out. |
[11:31.18] | It' s nice to talk with you. |
[00:00.65] | 你感觉怎么样? |
[00:01.14] | 很好,现在好多了。 |
[00:03.11] | 很好,你的故事已经在电台里 |
[00:07.25] | 无数次地被提起,简直太疯狂了 |
[00:11.35] | 所以我只想谈谈现在 |
[00:13.30] | 谈谈你感兴趣的 |
[00:15.02] | 谈谈你想谈的东西,你想谈什么? |
[00:18.28] | 我啊,除了谈我自己谈什么都行 |
[00:21.93] | 是啊,我知道,你过去的几个月真疯狂。 |
[00:24.69] | 是的,很多事情都不同了。 |
[00:27.18] | 你说过… |
[00:28.30] | 我很喜欢你常说的一句话 |
[00:32.02] | 你说过 |
[00:34.18] | 创作音乐一直是你喜欢做的事情 |
[00:36.85] | 一切都转瞬即逝,只有音乐是永恒的 |
[00:40.34] | 我喜欢写歌也喜欢唱歌, |
[00:42.53] | 我喜欢创作音乐是因为我享受创作的过程, |
[00:46.17] | 但除了音乐我还有许多热爱的东西, |
[00:50.16] | 电影就是其中之一 |
[00:53.60] | 我觉得你很喜欢电影的艺术质感, |
[00:56.76] | 当我听你的歌时就有这种感觉 |
[00:58.15] | 我很喜欢在歌曲中加入电影质感的音景采样 |
[01:01.66] | 我确实很喜欢电影 |
[01:07.74] | 这种质感在你的专辑Born to Die里也能感受到吗? |
[01:10.24] | 如果脑海中没有这种场景的话 |
[01:13.99] | 很难创作出有电影感的音乐。 |
[01:15.99] | 是的,当我写歌的时候 |
[01:19.15] | 我会回忆过去的时光 |
[01:21.88] | 试着用文字来描绘过去的日子。 |
[01:27.10] | 后来我遇到了Emile Haynie, |
[01:28.61] | 他是这十年来最有名的hip pop制作人 |
[01:31.69] | 我能先打断你一下吗?给各位听众介绍一下, |
[01:33.97] | 是纽约最一流的音乐制作人, |
[01:36.43] | 他真的很有才,当我遇到他还有Justin Parker时 |
[01:40.72] | 我感觉自己遇到了音乐上的灵魂伴侣 |
[01:44.03] | 你知道,Emile的节奏加上Larry Gold的弦乐创作 |
[01:50.10] | 让整张专辑曲风华丽而且风格统一。 |
[01:55.23] | 你知道,因为我觉得当代嘻哈灵魂乐是Emile的专长。 |
[01:59.78] | 是啊,刚遇到Emile的时候我感觉自己和他的曲风格格不入, |
[02:04.07] | 但是当我跟他描述自己想要创作的音乐作品时, |
[02:06.92] | 他完全理解我在说什么, |
[02:10.25] | 然后我们就,天啊,我们在一起合作了好久。 |
[02:14.00] | 我敢说,你最近肯定时不时会希望 |
[02:16.88] | 你又回到录音室跟他一起创作歌曲。 |
[02:18.09] | 是的,我经常会这样希望,但是你知道, |
[02:21.05] | 我和我遇到的这三位制作人之间就像一个音乐大家庭一样, |
[02:26.42] | 真的很棒,他对我很支持, |
[02:28.88] | 他甚至到现在还没有开始他的下一个制作项目, |
[02:31.07] | 我们还在忙着制作一个杂集CD,今年夏天会发行。 |
[02:34.38] | 太棒了,我们现在将播放新专born to die的现场session track |
[02:37.87] | 不要走开,采访稍后继续。 |
[02:44.46] | 这歌简直碉堡了 |
[02:46.96] | 是啊是啊 |
[02:48.85] | 太棒了,不是吗?灵魂音乐一刚。 |
[02:50.92] | 是的,乐队成员们都很享受 |
[02:53.52] | 他们看到墙上的Bing Crosby装饰画了吗? |
[02:55.75] | 不晓得哎 |
[02:57.38] | 我以前在纽约的时候简短采访过你, |
[03:00.19] | 当时你在第五大道购物 |
[03:01.47] | 我没买东西,我就在蹲墙角, |
[03:05.21] | 我的基友们看到都说“哎呀看她好red啊” |
[03:08.61] | You fancy huh?“你好吊哈?” |
[03:09.66] | 你好吊哈?你碉堡了哈?” |
[03:11.90] | 我就彻底无语了… |
[03:13.51] | 现在你又来腐国了 |
[03:15.72] | 考虑到这件事刚刚发生 |
[03:17.93] | 我觉得应该给你一个解释的机会 |
[03:19.18] | 你昨晚在Maccabees的演出取消是怎么回事? |
[03:20.54] | 你知道,这么早就开始取消演出会让人不解, |
[03:23.15] | 而且对音乐人来说最伤心的就是取消演出了, |
[03:25.19] | 所以到底发生什么了? |
[03:27.41] | 没人想要取消,但是我当时真的感觉不太舒服, |
[03:32.24] | 我当天早些时候和下午在Meadville做专场, |
[03:36.42] | 到了最后我很确定 |
[03:40.83] | 我的状态无法再去演出 |
[03:42.19] | 但是就像我说的,非要上台的话也可以,本来可以不取消的… |
[03:48.07] | 听到那音乐了吗?一下子就严肃了, |
[03:50.97] | 突然就感觉沉重了一刚, |
[03:54.25] | 感觉跟《无敌浩克》的结尾似的 |
[03:57.30] | 我哭了,你也哭了,Craig也哭了 |
[04:00.34] | 大家也都开始哭 |
[04:01.97] | 嗷嗷惨,我们才不想走到那一步。 |
[04:06.02] | 哈哈哈 |
[04:08.16] | 既然说到现场演出了, |
[04:10.13] | 因为我觉得并不是所有人都认为 |
[04:14.40] | 他们发行专辑之后就要急着去巡演, |
[04:17.50] | 我的意思是,如果你想想你自己, |
[04:18.80] | 想想本质上来说你想用你的音乐和创作所达到哪些目标。 |
[04:21.08] | 而且你更喜欢待在录音室 |
[04:22.59] | 跟制作人和身边的人们一起工作, |
[04:24.82] | 你知道比如有些人一想到公开演讲 |
[04:28.15] | 就紧张到不行。 |
[04:29.54] | 大部分人都会。 |
[04:30.62] | 那么你的感受是… |
[04:31.74] | 有些音乐人吧, |
[04:32.48] | 比如说foo fighter主唱Dave Grohl |
[04:35.25] | 提到他大家的感觉就是 |
[04:37.25] | 快去上台巡演”! |
[04:39.11] | 但你对此怎么看呢? |
[04:41.61] | 如果你的经纪人现在过来跟你说“拜托至少做一场巡演吧” |
[04:43.90] | 你是什么感觉? |
[04:46.04] | 这要看情况了 |
[04:48.07] | 我确实更喜欢待在录音室里, |
[04:53.15] | 我喜欢跟我的制作人们一起工作, |
[04:59.36] | 但是自从我开始巡演, |
[05:01.89] | 我发现有那么多粉丝来看我的演出, |
[05:04.51] | 我倒开始有些喜欢巡演了,我喜欢旅行, |
[05:07.75] | 但我真的喜欢布鲁克林喜欢待在纽约,我开始想家了。 |
[05:12.48] | 演出的规模也有很大关系, |
[05:15.27] | 我不太可能会有大型的演出, |
[05:18.31] | 但如果是小型现场的话 |
[05:20.90] | 我挺喜欢的。 |
[05:22.43] | 之前有许多艺人 |
[05:24.06] | 比如Neil Young啊Bob Dylan啊Adele啊 |
[05:27.97] | 他们会说 |
[05:29.67] | 如果现场演出没有什么新意的话, |
[05:32.57] | 我会自己决定如何演出” |
[05:35.43] | 你有打算让自己的演出不同寻常吗? |
[05:38.59] | 当然,我的团队都知道 |
[05:42.07] | 我喜欢做小型现场演出 |
[05:44.63] | 你提到的那些艺人是很好的例子 |
[05:47.48] | 他们都按自己的想法做事 |
[05:49.64] | 与我一起工作的人之所以愿意和我合作 |
[05:51.72] | 也是因为他们知道我会按自己的想法做事 |
[05:54.77] | 我真正关心的事情是把自己的专辑做得很优秀,所以… |
[05:59.99] | 很优秀哈?你膨胀了。 |
[06:03.43] | 是啊是啊等着看好戏吧。 |
[06:07.29] | 好了吧,马都跑走了,欢迎来到21世纪。 |
[06:09.82] | 跟你谈这些真的很有趣, |
[06:13.50] | 但是我们先换一个轻松点的话题,谈谈A$AP Rocky, |
[06:17.23] | 这家伙真是美国说唱界的新秀 |
[06:22.27] | 我知道你也不是省油的灯。 |
[06:24.59] | 你知道,我喜欢最优秀的, |
[06:26.77] | 不是所有的都喜欢, |
[06:29.50] | 好的说唱音乐能让人充满活力。 |
[06:33.18] | 你的性格很让人好奇, |
[06:34.52] | 现在我听你的歌时 |
[06:36.74] | 会感觉你是歌里的角色 |
[06:38.74] | 在很有趣的情节里 |
[06:39.97] | 遇到了你的英雄。 |
[06:41.47] | 说得好。 |
[06:43.11] | 在我看来你的经历 |
[06:46.13] | 真的特别不同寻常, |
[06:48.27] | 比如你的音乐创作, |
[06:51.80] | 你用影像和图像呈现出的艺术形式, |
[06:55.08] | 你用亦真亦假的方式展现出的自己, |
[06:59.03] | 这些都是你一个人的灵感, |
[07:01.36] | 我相信这些艺术表达都是发自内心的, |
[07:03.24] | 捕捉到了那段旧时光的灵魂和精华, |
[07:09.57] | 让它在我们的时代里找回了自己的声音。 |
[07:13.77] | .啊。 |
[07:13.80] | 你有这样想过吗?如果没有,现在能想到吗? |
[07:17.81] | 当我创作歌曲时 |
[07:19.98] | 我并没有特意去追求一种复古感, |
[07:24.34] | 我只知道我很喜欢老电影的质感, |
[07:28.32] | 但我不认为人们真的会 |
[07:29.99] | 认为这是对复古感刻意的追求。 |
[07:34.48] | 你什么时候开始接触的互联网? |
[07:36.81] | 因为你并不是在某个特定的时代长大, |
[07:38.71] | 互联网改变了一切, |
[07:42.01] | 改变了信息传播与发现的方式, |
[07:45.68] | 尤其是音乐界, |
[07:46.66] | 整个产业都被重新定义, |
[07:48.16] | 你什么时候开始接触互联网 |
[07:49.78] | 并意识到可以用它来为你的艺术服务? |
[07:52.26] | 我对互联网的接触有着不同的阶段, |
[07:56.85] | 我记得当我14岁时 |
[07:58.61] | 即时通讯软件刚刚出现,当时几乎我们所有人都在网上认识了男朋友, |
[08:03.49] | 感觉就像网络BP机一样是吧? |
[08:06.08] | 我记得刚开始 |
[08:07.51] | 大家都对这个特别信以为真, |
[08:09.16] | 大家会跟高年级的男神网上聊天, |
[08:12.34] | 比如“你能从家里溜出来到街上见我吗”, |
[08:14.92] | 那时真的很疯狂, |
[08:18.65] | 但我并没有很迷恋于网络, |
[08:20.73] | 我确实对网络有很高期望, |
[08:23.67] | 我知道有很多善良的人 |
[08:27.42] | 想用网络把世界变成一个大家庭 |
[08:33.44] | 让信息和帮助都很快地传播, |
[08:37.69] | 我从没真正想过用网络来帮助我的音乐事业, |
[08:42.33] | 我以前经常把音乐视频放到YouTube上 |
[08:45.90] | 当时我对这些很有热情, |
[08:47.75] | 也喜欢自己编辑音乐之类的, |
[08:49.91] | 但我一直认为如果我的音乐成功了 |
[08:53.04] | 那是因为有人来看我的演出。 |
[08:56.48] | 很传统的方式,“嗨这歌真不错,我要去告诉别人” |
[08:59.67] | 是的,这是我了解到的 |
[09:03.96] | 别人的音乐被传唱的方式, |
[09:09.05] | 很有趣,因为现如今 |
[09:10.20] | 并不是所有人都有这样发现好音乐的机会, |
[09:13.04] | 但是我刚刚想到一个好点子, |
[09:17.54] | 简直太经典了, |
[09:19.99] | 过去,你需要靠着那些歌手和作曲人来推广音乐, |
[09:24.05] | 像Bob Dylan啊John Byer啊, |
[09:26.95] | 他们就是那个时代的音乐推广人, |
[09:30.72] | 也许吧。 |
[09:31.57] | 是的,每个时代的音乐都有不同的推广方式。 |
[09:35.27] | 你和Bobby Womack在他的新专辑中有合作, |
[09:38.84] | 还有作曲人Damon Albarn和Richard Russell |
[09:41.08] | 是的 |
[09:41.95] | 跟传奇人物在一起合作感觉如何? |
[09:44.40] | 很好,我想他们是后来决定让我参与进来的, |
[09:49.35] | 他们在Jewels发现了我, |
[09:51.72] | 所以… |
[09:53.84] | 给我一段旋律让我自由发挥, |
[09:58.89] | 他想让我唱一段和声, |
[10:00.35] | 所以我就唱了,这已经过去一段时间了,但这经历很棒。 |
[10:05.97] | 我听了那首歌 |
[10:07.07] | 真的? |
[10:07.96] | 是的,我想说真的很棒, |
[10:11.20] | 里面有一段你的唱到“Hiiiiiiiiiii” |
[10:15.97] | 声音沙哑了,我就想“这听起来像Bobby” |
[10:19.84] | 但不是Bobby而是你 |
[10:22.06] | 我去 |
[10:22.86] | 干得漂亮 |
[10:23.82] | 这歌我还没听到, |
[10:25.67] | 我很开心他们最后采用了这首 |
[10:28.26] | 哈利路亚,这歌太好听了, |
[10:30.16] | 我已经等不及让大家在这首歌里听到你的声音, |
[10:33.29] | 这歌会很棒。 |
[10:34.95] | 来年很值得期盼, |
[10:37.18] | 就今年来说,你取得了那么多成功, |
[10:42.04] | 有那么多人去看Video Games,听你的歌和专辑, |
[10:45.09] | 你成功了,祝贺祝贺, |
[10:49.68] | 你是个英雄, |
[10:50.78] | 年你还有什么要回顾的? |
[10:53.62] | 还有什么你希望自己可以得到的? |
[10:56.54] | 和以前一样吧还是那些东西, |
[11:00.36] | 希望自己没有遗憾,优雅地生活, |
[11:03.68] | 还希望能做出一张好专辑,这个我已经做到了,很开心。 |
[11:08.77] | 是啊,我希望你很享受这张专辑的创作过程, |
[11:14.22] | 还有人们对你的音乐的反响, |
[11:15.75] | 因为,就我而言,这些是最重要的, |
[11:17.95] | 最后感谢你的宝贵时间兰娜黛蕊。 |
[11:20.77] | 感谢CCTV。 |
[11:21.85] | 等时间合适的时候我们还会再见的, |
[11:23.89] | 你有计划今年夏天在英国演出吗, |
[11:26.17] | 或者说现在决定还为时过早? |
[11:27.48] | 也可能在音乐节吧,现在还都在计划中。 |
[11:31.18] | 很高兴和你聊天。 |